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Monday, October 21, 2019

VAPs and Fellowships: Open Thread, 2019-2020

On this thread, comments can be shared regarding news of appointments to VAPs or similar fellowships (for example, the Climenko and Bigelow).  Here is last year's thread.

You may also add information to the spreadsheet.

Posted by Sarah Lawsky on October 21, 2019 at 09:00 AM in Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market | Permalink


I think people are simply not reporting as much this year. Most programs have interviewed and hired at least some people by now.

Posted by: anon | Jan 14, 2020 11:56:18 AM

Any Columbia, Climenko or Bigelow movement? Been waiting for a few weeks, granted the holidays just wrapped up. Is this year slower than previous ones?

Posted by: John Doe | Jan 13, 2020 12:06:30 PM

any word on the Climenko?

Posted by: Angsting | Jan 9, 2020 11:48:04 AM

Post-interview rejection at Duke for me ...

Posted by: reject | Dec 21, 2019 11:03:22 PM

My Sharswood rejection was post interview as well. I imagine most of them were since interviews wrapped up yesterday.

Posted by: anony | Dec 20, 2019 2:58:30 PM

Any information on the dates of the two Grey Fellowship interviews and call back?

Posted by: Aspiring | Dec 20, 2019 1:44:43 PM

My Sharswood rejection was post-interview.

Posted by: anonymous | Dec 20, 2019 12:17:46 PM

I see there are a few Sharswood rejections now reported in the table. Can anyone share whether they were post-interview? Thx!

Posted by: anon | Dec 20, 2019 9:38:38 AM

Just posted: https://www.thefacultylounge.org/2019/12/global-academic-fellow-3-posts-in-the-department-of-law-at-the-university-of-hong-kong.html

Posted by: YoungComparative | Dec 19, 2019 12:32:23 PM

Any news on non-Sharswood fellowships at Penn?

Posted by: Curious | Dec 19, 2019 10:51:58 AM

Climenko has definitely interviewed people.

Posted by: Anon | Dec 18, 2019 9:11:06 PM

Still no Climenko interviews, or just no reporting?

Posted by: anonym | Dec 18, 2019 7:35:19 PM

Things start wrapping up in February most years, although there tend to be one or two late-moving fellowships. If you applied widely in October and haven't heard a peep, it's not a good sign, but it's too early to write things off entirely. If you applied later, you might still be making your way through the pipeline. It's also not too late to apply to most of these if you haven't already!

Posted by: Current VAP/Fellow | Dec 18, 2019 5:02:15 PM

For what it's worth I still have interviews coming up.

Posted by: another aspirer | Dec 18, 2019 4:58:58 PM

I did not receive a rejection from Michigan but I suppose that’s an oversight.

Posted by: Anon | Dec 18, 2019 4:56:59 PM

Generally speaking, when do things start wrapping up? Is everything getting near the finish line?

Posted by: Aspiring | Dec 18, 2019 4:47:30 PM

Well, it appears that Michigan's process is near the finish line, as they sent out rejections. Does anyone knows anything interesting about the process at the other schools?

Posted by: Anon | Dec 18, 2019 4:17:09 PM

I applied for fellowships a couple of years ago and heard nothing from anyone. I felt dejected but I kept writing papers on evenings and weekends and just last week I got a tenure-track offer.
How did my situation compare to if I had gotten a fellowship? Same time-frame as a fellowship, more income from my current job, more stress from using all my free time for writing, no mentorship or guidance on the job market, and I'm probably landing at a less prestigious school than I might otherwise (I've learned a ton about what *not* to do on the job market!!). But I've landed a job and I'm thrilled about that.
A fellowship is definitely a huge advantage, but the market is sufficiently idiosyncratic that failure to land one doesn't reflect poorly on you, nor does it preclude you from getting a permanent job.

Posted by: anon | Dec 11, 2019 10:22:18 AM

Jesus what are you supposed to do on this job market if you can't even get one of these fellowships first?

Posted by: doomed | Dec 10, 2019 7:48:28 PM

Is there a source for "supposing" Harvard has done anything?

Posted by: anone3 | Dec 10, 2019 7:35:36 PM

The table is actually quite informative--thanks to those who have been updating it!

Posted by: Anon | Dec 10, 2019 3:03:40 PM

Crazy how quiet it is on this board. I imagine that most programs will not do much between now and mid-January. But why are people so taciturn?

Posted by: anon | Dec 10, 2019 11:15:42 AM

OK. So Chicago has done some screeners. NYU has too. I suppose Harvard has as well. Why isn't anyone sharing info?

Posted by: ANON | Dec 6, 2019 10:57:06 AM

Q, thank you very much for your detailed answer. It is very helpful!

Posted by: Perplexed | Dec 5, 2019 6:24:11 PM

Perplexed - I can't speak for what the norm is, but when I applied to these programs (and was invited for interviews) I wrote a one-paragraph summary of my then-current research project. In some cases this meant that the cover letter was a bit over one page. Being on the other side now, I've seen some applicants take the same approach and others be a bit more expansive, with two or three paragraphs about their research plans. If there is no request for a separate research agenda, I would assume that the school still wants to see that you have thought about the research you plan to do, but at the fellowship level does not expect a full multi-year research agenda.

Posted by: Q | Dec 2, 2019 6:49:32 PM

in years past there have been interviews for these programs in January and February. Did not hear until after holidays.

Posted by: anon | Dec 2, 2019 2:33:06 PM

Is there a common wisdom on writing a cover letter for VAPs/Fellowships that don’t require a research agenda as part of their application package? Do folks summarize their research agenda in a paragraph? Write longer than one-page cover letter? Or simply describe their research and interests on a higher level of generality (inferring that these particular VAPs/Fellowships are not interested in the specifics of applicants' research agenda)?

Posted by: Perplexed | Dec 2, 2019 1:08:04 PM

Heard that Michigan has begun contacting people.

Posted by: anon | Nov 26, 2019 7:33:13 PM

I applied to programs in October and I have heard exactly nothing.

Posted by: anon | Nov 26, 2019 3:55:22 PM

With no evidence whatsoever, I'm choosing to believe that everything is thrown off a little bit this year since Thanksgiving falls so late in the month of November.

Posted by: Aspiring | Nov 26, 2019 1:50:32 PM

Any further news on interviews this week? So much silence this cycle.

Posted by: Angsty | Nov 26, 2019 10:14:56 AM

Recent email from Climenko indicating review underway as well and process to be complete by "early 2020."

Posted by: anon3 | Nov 26, 2019 12:58:50 AM

Penn sent out an email today confirming Sharswood review was underway.

Posted by: anon3 | Nov 19, 2019 7:48:58 PM

I have heard through the grapevine that Chicago has invited some Bigelow candidates to campus, as has NYU for Lawyering. I understand that Harvard and Penn are in the process of reviewing applications. I do not know if they have made calls yet.

Posted by: anon | Nov 19, 2019 3:06:33 PM

Aa mentioned that NYU is not the only program that has begun making calls. I wonder about these other programs... If anyone can shed light on this, that would be helpful.

Posted by: anona | Nov 18, 2019 3:05:31 PM

Historically NYU has interviewed in waves, and made offers throughout the year. I think in the interview series the director said they interview around 15-20 people for the positions and generally have about 4-5 open any given year.

Posted by: aa | Nov 18, 2019 2:40:56 PM

If NYU have made choices, they certainly haven't informed rejectees yet.

Posted by: anony | Nov 18, 2019 2:15:56 PM

Then someone should update the spreadsheet re: NYU

Posted by: Anon | Nov 18, 2019 12:31:10 PM

NYU has either had or scheduled interviews. They’re not the only program either.

Posted by: Aa | Nov 18, 2019 11:09:58 AM

Glad I’m not the only one. Based on last year’s thread, at least NYU had already had interviews by this point in 2018

Posted by: Anon with the wind | Nov 18, 2019 10:18:45 AM

since hiring seems to have taken place later this year, programs may be waiting to see how gets hired.

Posted by: anon | Nov 17, 2019 9:18:32 PM

Seems bizarre. I applied all over and still haven't heard a word from anyone.

Posted by: anon2 | Nov 17, 2019 9:08:29 PM

Still nothing?

Posted by: anon | Nov 17, 2019 8:23:27 PM

We are almost mid-November and zero movement here. This is odd given prior years.

Posted by: anon | Nov 11, 2019 3:49:07 PM

Gosh, quite the deafening silence on this thread. Either the usual VAPs are late this year or those getting interviews are taciturn

Posted by: Here today, anon tomorrow | Nov 6, 2019 12:02:20 PM

If hiring does not happen until Dec/Jan, then shouldn't this month be quite active for interviewing?

Posted by: anon | Nov 4, 2019 9:39:08 AM

I'm a VAP/fellow in one of the 'usual' programs and we're still at a very early stage in our review process. Having gone through this recently, I think it's way too early for anyone to worry; I suspect that the strong majority of VAPs/fellows who will ultimately be hired have not yet heard anything. Most VAP/fellow hiring happens from December - February.

Posted by: TopVAP | Nov 1, 2019 3:24:42 PM

Ditto. I applied to a bunch, and I think I'm a good candidate, but I have not heard a word. Kinda depressing. Although maybe this year's cycle is running late, for some reason. Hard to say: I have zero insight and information regarding what goes on from the evaluation end.

Posted by: anon2 | Nov 1, 2019 10:19:18 AM

I applied to many of the fellowships and haven't heard from a single one yet. Either none are interested in me or it's too early for results to come in.

Could also be more people are waiting for the AALS job process to play out before throwing their hats in the ring?

Posted by: anony | Oct 31, 2019 4:17:15 PM

Board is very quite compared to previous years.

Posted by: anon | Oct 31, 2019 3:03:38 PM

Anyone heard from NYU?

Posted by: Anon non time ago | Oct 30, 2019 10:06:17 AM

I have not heard from Bigelow officially but it does seem someone from UChicago is looking into applicants, perhaps also getting in touch with references in the process.

Posted by: anony | Oct 23, 2019 1:34:41 PM

Has anyone received a call back or an interview from Bigelow or Climenko yet?

Posted by: anon | Oct 23, 2019 10:01:40 AM

Do all VAPs and fellowships interview or do some select without interviews (either Skype or campus)?

Posted by: Anon | Oct 22, 2019 2:06:45 PM

Chicago-Kent is accepting applications for a VAP of legal research and writing for work starting in Fall 2020. Candidates must have graduated from law school in 2017 or earlier.

Posted by: Ed Lee | Oct 21, 2019 2:22:24 PM

The Stanford Constitutional Law Center is currently accepting fellowship applications. For more information, visit:


Posted by: Chas Tyler | Oct 21, 2019 10:28:25 AM

In addition to our regular VAP hiring, Villanova Law will have an opportunity for an anti-poverty fellow, a one or more year fellow dedicated to finding a solution to the problem of poverty. Please keep a lookout if this is your area.

Posted by: Michael Risch | Oct 21, 2019 9:58:25 AM

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