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Monday, October 21, 2019

VAPs and Fellowships: Open Thread, 2019-2020

On this thread, comments can be shared regarding news of appointments to VAPs or similar fellowships (for example, the Climenko and Bigelow).  Here is last year's thread.

You may also add information to the spreadsheet.

Posted by Sarah Lawsky on October 21, 2019 at 09:00 AM in Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market | Permalink

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Perceptions and Anonhiringchair, thank you very much for your detailed and very helpful answers to my questions. Eternal flame, thank you too for answering the original anon’s comparative question and for helping to keep this thread alive even during angsting season. Best of luck to all.

Posted by: anon | Feb 20, 2020 12:23:15 PM

Speaking as someone who just finished a stint as entry level hiring chair, I think it’s safe to assume that the relative “prestige” levels of vap/fellowship programs at top 10-ish schools are functionally similar on the market, and have virtually no impact on hiring decisions. Therefore, pick the place that offers the best intellectual and professional environment for you, and forget about the other stuff.

Posted by: Anonhiringchair | Feb 20, 2020 11:44:54 AM

Re perceptions of fellowships, to analogize to law school tiers, my sense is that the Bigelow (Chicago), Climenko (Harvard), and Academic Fellow (Columbia) programs are respectively the YHS of fellowships. Lawyering (NYU) and Grey (Stanford) are kind of like Columbia/Chicago/NYU in that there might be a very little difference that some prestige-oriented folks notice, but there's nothing particularly meaningful by way of perception separating them. Programs like Yale's ISP or the Sharswood are kind of the equivalent of getting a fancy named scholarship at a top-ten school, like NYU's Root-Tilden-Kern scholarship: they're less generally known than the Bigelow/Climenko/Academic Fellows programs, have somewhat less of a definite base of interest, but will regularly impress a subset of relevant actors -- and generally have a higher variability of outcome.

This whole analogy falls apart insofar as academic placement is very subject-area specific and so, unlike with post-law school hiring, perceptions matter fairly little.* This is also a poor analogy because there are material differences in the experiences of each of these fellowships in teaching loads, fellows communities, etc. that matter a lot. So, assuming equal cost (which is a fair assumption), it could be entirely reasonable for a candidate to choose Illinois' fellowship over the Bigelow -- whereas, without a big difference in COA or some regional tie, I don't know that you could say the same thing about choosing between Yale and Illinois for law school.

*There are certain signals and perceptions that matter a lot in this process, like placement -- but those are mostly exogenous to where one does a fellowship.

Posted by: perceptions | Feb 20, 2020 11:40:42 AM

Speaking of comparisons, does anyone knows how Cornell’s VAP is perceived in the law teaching market vs fellowships from other than HYS T-14 schools? Or, for that matter, vs the Iowa’s Fellowship recently posted here?

Posted by: anon | Feb 20, 2020 9:34:50 AM

Yale ISP puts you in an interesting, interdisciplinary scholarly community that also happens to be very warm & friendly. No teaching, and somewhat less of an intentional structure in terms of preparing folks for the market because fellows have diverse backgrounds. The ISP's record in placing law & tech candidates in TT jobs is pretty great, but most of those folks spent more than one year at YLS.

Climenko & Bigelow are more teaching and therefore more work (and less time to write). But also, as a rule, more time in the job (2-3 years) means more preparation for the market. Not sure about the environment in terms of either warm-fuzziness (my guess: low) or potential benefits/drawbacks for law & tech candidates specifically.

Posted by: eternal flame | Feb 20, 2020 8:33:14 AM

also curious to hear about Yale ISP versus other fellowships. any thoughts?

Posted by: curious | Feb 19, 2020 8:38:21 PM

Thoughts on Climenko vs. Yale ISP vs. Bigelow (with the goal of becoming law faculty)?

Posted by: anon | Feb 14, 2020 3:17:22 PM

Iowa will be hiring a faculty fellow this year. Details below.

The Iowa Law Faculty Fellowship is intended to provide research opportunities, faculty mentoring, and career development for promising legal scholars and teachers. Fellows will be expected to teach one course during the academic year, develop one or more major works of scholarship, and contribute to diversity, equity and inclusion goals at the College and University. While the Iowa Law Faculty Fellowship does not have a specific subject matter focus, it prioritizes applicants who seek to conduct interdisciplinary research that connects with other fields of study at the University of Iowa.

Initial Faculty Fellowship appointments are for one year and can be renewed once. Fellows will be appointed at the rank of Visiting Assistant Professor of Law. The salary for the 2020-21 Academic Year will be competitive with well-regarded law fellowship and VAP programs, and fellows will be provided with additional research support. Fellows will be expected to be in full-time residence at Iowa Law during the academic year--a great opportunity to live in the quintessential college town, home of the Iowa Writer's Workshop and a major public research university.

For fullest consideration, candidates should submit applications before March 5, 2020. For more information, they can contact Adrien Wing, chair of the Faculty Appointments Committee at [email protected]


More details are available at https://law.uiowa.edu/iowa-law-faculty-fellowship

Posted by: Jason Rantanen | Feb 13, 2020 1:23:11 PM

Does anyone know whether Columbia completed their interview rounds? I wonder whether not hearing from them at all until now is as bad as I think it is.

Posted by: anon33 | Feb 7, 2020 10:52:48 AM

We are hiring a health law/IP/IT fellow at DePaul. More information available at http://go.depaul.edu/jaharisfacultyfellow. Our first three fellows all placed in tenure-track jobs with top health law programs. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

"An endowment at the DePaul University College of Law funds a faculty fellowship program for scholars to create and disseminate scholarship and teach courses where two dynamic legal fields are increasingly intersecting—intellectual property/information technology and health law, broadly construed. The fellowship is designed to encourage scholars interested in entering a career in legal academia in these fields. The Jaharis Faculty Fellow will work with and be mentored by faculty from DePaul’s nationally-ranked Mary and Michael Jaharis Health Law Institute (JHLI) and Center for Intellectual Property Law & Information Technology (CIPLIT®)."

Posted by: Wendy Epstein | Feb 6, 2020 1:41:55 PM

STANFORD LAW SCHOOL seeks to hire a teaching fellow for the LLM Program in International Economic Law, Business & Policy. The appointment is for a two-year position with the possibility of a third year by mutual agreement, beginning In August 2020.

The fellow will assume significant academic, advising and administrative responsibilities. The principal functions of the teaching fellow are to prepare and lead a colloquium on international business issues for the 15-20 students who enroll in the program annually, to advise students on their curricular choices, and to assist in the admissions and orientation process for the incoming class.

The fellow will also organize and facilitate informal workshops, outside speakers, and academic and social events, be responsible for day-to-day administrative management of the LLM program, advise and counsel LLM candidates on academic and personal issues, respond to inquiries from prospective LLM applicants, and interact with our faculty in support of the LLM program goals and needs.

The ideal candidate will be an aspiring academic with a strong interest in one or more of the core subject areas spanned by the program (including international trade, international investment law, international dispute resolution and arbitration, international business transactions and international antitrust). It is expected that the responsibilities of the teaching fellow will occupy approximately half of his or her time, with the remaining time available to pursue the fellow’s own research agenda. The fellow will have full access to the research resources of Stanford University and access to faculty workshops.


Candidates for this position are expected to have strong academic records and references. Professional experience in the area is also valuable. This position is ideally intended for an individual who expects to pursue an academic career in the field, although a firm commitment to academia is not mandatory.

Application Deadline: Sunday, March 15, 2020

The program director, Prof. Alan Sykes, will screen and interview applicants. Applicants are encouraged to contact Prof. Sykes directly with an indication of interest and a CV – mail to:[email protected]

**In addition, applicants should also complete the Stanford application form found here: http://m.rfer.us/STANFORDOhgAK7

The position offers a competitive salary and benefits, including health coverage. To learn more about the full scope of benefits offered, please review additional information here: https://cardinalatwork.stanford.edu/benefits-rewards

Stanford is an equal employment opportunity and affirmative action employer. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, disability, protected veteran status, or any other characteristic protected by law.

Consistent with its obligations under the law, the University will provide reasonable accommodation to any employee with a disability who requires accommodation to perform the essential functions of the job.

Stanford Law School seeks to hire the best talent and to promote a safe and secure environment for all members of the university community and its property. To that end, new staff hires must successfully pass a background check prior to starting work at Stanford University.

Additional Information

Schedule: Full-time
Job Code: 1384
Employee Status: Fixed-Term
Grade: H99
Department URL: http://www.law.stanford.edu/
Requisition ID: 86056

Posted by: Italian | Jan 30, 2020 11:47:14 AM

Tulane Law School invites applications for a Forrester Fellowship. Forrester Fellowships are designed for promising scholars who plan to apply for tenure-track law school positions. The Fellows are full-time faculty in the law school and are encouraged to participate in all aspects of the intellectual life of the school. The law school provides significant support, both formal and informal, including faculty mentors, a professional travel budget, and opportunities to present works-in-progress in various settings.

Tulane's Forrester Fellows teach legal writing in the first-year curriculum to two sections of 25 to 30 first-year law students in a program coordinated by the Director of Legal Writing. Fellows are appointed to a one-year term with the possibility of a single one-year renewal. Applicants must have a JD from an ABA-accredited law school, outstanding academic credentials, and significant law-related practice and/or clerkship experience. Candidates should apply through Interfolio. If you have any questions, please contact Erin Donelon at [email protected]

The law school aims to fill this position by March 2020. Tulane is an equal opportunity employer and encourages women and members of minority communities to apply.

Qualifications
J.D. from ABA-accredited law school; practice and/or clerkship experience

Application Instructions
Select the "apply now" button for this position. Please provide a CV, law transcript, list of references, research agenda, and copies of any recent publications.

APPLICATION INFORMATION

Contact: Tulane University
Online App. Form: https://apply.interfolio.com/73175

Posted by: Italian | Jan 23, 2020 11:03:59 AM

I think people are simply not reporting as much this year. Most programs have interviewed and hired at least some people by now.

Posted by: anon | Jan 14, 2020 11:56:18 AM

Any Columbia, Climenko or Bigelow movement? Been waiting for a few weeks, granted the holidays just wrapped up. Is this year slower than previous ones?

Posted by: John Doe | Jan 13, 2020 12:06:30 PM

any word on the Climenko?

Posted by: Angsting | Jan 9, 2020 11:48:04 AM

Post-interview rejection at Duke for me ...

Posted by: reject | Dec 21, 2019 11:03:22 PM

My Sharswood rejection was post interview as well. I imagine most of them were since interviews wrapped up yesterday.

Posted by: anony | Dec 20, 2019 2:58:30 PM

Any information on the dates of the two Grey Fellowship interviews and call back?

Posted by: Aspiring | Dec 20, 2019 1:44:43 PM

My Sharswood rejection was post-interview.

Posted by: anonymous | Dec 20, 2019 12:17:46 PM

I see there are a few Sharswood rejections now reported in the table. Can anyone share whether they were post-interview? Thx!

Posted by: anon | Dec 20, 2019 9:38:38 AM

Just posted: https://www.thefacultylounge.org/2019/12/global-academic-fellow-3-posts-in-the-department-of-law-at-the-university-of-hong-kong.html

Posted by: YoungComparative | Dec 19, 2019 12:32:23 PM

Any news on non-Sharswood fellowships at Penn?

Posted by: Curious | Dec 19, 2019 10:51:58 AM

Climenko has definitely interviewed people.

Posted by: Anon | Dec 18, 2019 9:11:06 PM

Still no Climenko interviews, or just no reporting?

Posted by: anonym | Dec 18, 2019 7:35:19 PM

Things start wrapping up in February most years, although there tend to be one or two late-moving fellowships. If you applied widely in October and haven't heard a peep, it's not a good sign, but it's too early to write things off entirely. If you applied later, you might still be making your way through the pipeline. It's also not too late to apply to most of these if you haven't already!

Posted by: Current VAP/Fellow | Dec 18, 2019 5:02:15 PM

For what it's worth I still have interviews coming up.

Posted by: another aspirer | Dec 18, 2019 4:58:58 PM

I did not receive a rejection from Michigan but I suppose that’s an oversight.

Posted by: Anon | Dec 18, 2019 4:56:59 PM

Generally speaking, when do things start wrapping up? Is everything getting near the finish line?

Posted by: Aspiring | Dec 18, 2019 4:47:30 PM

Well, it appears that Michigan's process is near the finish line, as they sent out rejections. Does anyone knows anything interesting about the process at the other schools?

Posted by: Anon | Dec 18, 2019 4:17:09 PM

I applied for fellowships a couple of years ago and heard nothing from anyone. I felt dejected but I kept writing papers on evenings and weekends and just last week I got a tenure-track offer.
How did my situation compare to if I had gotten a fellowship? Same time-frame as a fellowship, more income from my current job, more stress from using all my free time for writing, no mentorship or guidance on the job market, and I'm probably landing at a less prestigious school than I might otherwise (I've learned a ton about what *not* to do on the job market!!). But I've landed a job and I'm thrilled about that.
A fellowship is definitely a huge advantage, but the market is sufficiently idiosyncratic that failure to land one doesn't reflect poorly on you, nor does it preclude you from getting a permanent job.

Posted by: anon | Dec 11, 2019 10:22:18 AM

Jesus what are you supposed to do on this job market if you can't even get one of these fellowships first?

Posted by: doomed | Dec 10, 2019 7:48:28 PM

Is there a source for "supposing" Harvard has done anything?

Posted by: anone3 | Dec 10, 2019 7:35:36 PM

The table is actually quite informative--thanks to those who have been updating it!

Posted by: Anon | Dec 10, 2019 3:03:40 PM

Crazy how quiet it is on this board. I imagine that most programs will not do much between now and mid-January. But why are people so taciturn?

Posted by: anon | Dec 10, 2019 11:15:42 AM

OK. So Chicago has done some screeners. NYU has too. I suppose Harvard has as well. Why isn't anyone sharing info?

Posted by: ANON | Dec 6, 2019 10:57:06 AM

Q, thank you very much for your detailed answer. It is very helpful!

Posted by: Perplexed | Dec 5, 2019 6:24:11 PM

Perplexed - I can't speak for what the norm is, but when I applied to these programs (and was invited for interviews) I wrote a one-paragraph summary of my then-current research project. In some cases this meant that the cover letter was a bit over one page. Being on the other side now, I've seen some applicants take the same approach and others be a bit more expansive, with two or three paragraphs about their research plans. If there is no request for a separate research agenda, I would assume that the school still wants to see that you have thought about the research you plan to do, but at the fellowship level does not expect a full multi-year research agenda.

Posted by: Q | Dec 2, 2019 6:49:32 PM

in years past there have been interviews for these programs in January and February. Did not hear until after holidays.

Posted by: anon | Dec 2, 2019 2:33:06 PM

Is there a common wisdom on writing a cover letter for VAPs/Fellowships that don’t require a research agenda as part of their application package? Do folks summarize their research agenda in a paragraph? Write longer than one-page cover letter? Or simply describe their research and interests on a higher level of generality (inferring that these particular VAPs/Fellowships are not interested in the specifics of applicants' research agenda)?

Posted by: Perplexed | Dec 2, 2019 1:08:04 PM

Heard that Michigan has begun contacting people.

Posted by: anon | Nov 26, 2019 7:33:13 PM

I applied to programs in October and I have heard exactly nothing.

Posted by: anon | Nov 26, 2019 3:55:22 PM

With no evidence whatsoever, I'm choosing to believe that everything is thrown off a little bit this year since Thanksgiving falls so late in the month of November.

Posted by: Aspiring | Nov 26, 2019 1:50:32 PM

Any further news on interviews this week? So much silence this cycle.

Posted by: Angsty | Nov 26, 2019 10:14:56 AM

Recent email from Climenko indicating review underway as well and process to be complete by "early 2020."

Posted by: anon3 | Nov 26, 2019 12:58:50 AM

Penn sent out an email today confirming Sharswood review was underway.

Posted by: anon3 | Nov 19, 2019 7:48:58 PM

I have heard through the grapevine that Chicago has invited some Bigelow candidates to campus, as has NYU for Lawyering. I understand that Harvard and Penn are in the process of reviewing applications. I do not know if they have made calls yet.

Posted by: anon | Nov 19, 2019 3:06:33 PM

Aa mentioned that NYU is not the only program that has begun making calls. I wonder about these other programs... If anyone can shed light on this, that would be helpful.

Posted by: anona | Nov 18, 2019 3:05:31 PM

Historically NYU has interviewed in waves, and made offers throughout the year. I think in the interview series the director said they interview around 15-20 people for the positions and generally have about 4-5 open any given year.

Posted by: aa | Nov 18, 2019 2:40:56 PM

If NYU have made choices, they certainly haven't informed rejectees yet.

Posted by: anony | Nov 18, 2019 2:15:56 PM

Then someone should update the spreadsheet re: NYU

Posted by: Anon | Nov 18, 2019 12:31:10 PM

NYU has either had or scheduled interviews. They’re not the only program either.

Posted by: Aa | Nov 18, 2019 11:09:58 AM

Glad I’m not the only one. Based on last year’s thread, at least NYU had already had interviews by this point in 2018

Posted by: Anon with the wind | Nov 18, 2019 10:18:45 AM

since hiring seems to have taken place later this year, programs may be waiting to see how gets hired.

Posted by: anon | Nov 17, 2019 9:18:32 PM

Seems bizarre. I applied all over and still haven't heard a word from anyone.

Posted by: anon2 | Nov 17, 2019 9:08:29 PM

Still nothing?

Posted by: anon | Nov 17, 2019 8:23:27 PM

We are almost mid-November and zero movement here. This is odd given prior years.

Posted by: anon | Nov 11, 2019 3:49:07 PM

Gosh, quite the deafening silence on this thread. Either the usual VAPs are late this year or those getting interviews are taciturn

Posted by: Here today, anon tomorrow | Nov 6, 2019 12:02:20 PM

If hiring does not happen until Dec/Jan, then shouldn't this month be quite active for interviewing?

Posted by: anon | Nov 4, 2019 9:39:08 AM

I'm a VAP/fellow in one of the 'usual' programs and we're still at a very early stage in our review process. Having gone through this recently, I think it's way too early for anyone to worry; I suspect that the strong majority of VAPs/fellows who will ultimately be hired have not yet heard anything. Most VAP/fellow hiring happens from December - February.

Posted by: TopVAP | Nov 1, 2019 3:24:42 PM

Ditto. I applied to a bunch, and I think I'm a good candidate, but I have not heard a word. Kinda depressing. Although maybe this year's cycle is running late, for some reason. Hard to say: I have zero insight and information regarding what goes on from the evaluation end.

Posted by: anon2 | Nov 1, 2019 10:19:18 AM

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