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Tuesday, July 16, 2019
AALS on Entry Level Hiring
Update, 7/16/19: I have been directly in touch with AALS, and they were extremely willing to update the site. I am going to leave this post up, because I'm generally opposed to putting things down the memory hole, but I will close comments.
I have long hoped that the AALS would report on entry-level hiring. After all, they are the ones who collect all the information. They are well positioned to do true statistical analysis on the candidate pool and the successful candidates. (They used to do so but stopped for some reason and scrubbed the information from the website, though of course it's available through the Wayback Machine.)
So I was happy to see that they have created a new website, which will, they promise, "mak[e] the process of obtaining a teaching job as transparent as possible, and provid[e] as much information to potential candidates as we can."
Imagine my surprise when I clicked through to the website and found, not statistical analysis based on actual information to which they have direct access, but rather the data and graphs that I, Sarah Lawsky, have been posting on this blog for the past ten years. My work is acknowledged through a single asterisk, which leads to this text at the bottom of the page: These data, which are self-reported by recently hired law faculty or, in some cases, their schools, was collected by PrawfsBlawg and provided as a downloadable spreadsheet. PrawfsBlawg data include “information for tenure-track, clinical, or legal writing full-time entry level hires.” (There is a link to the spreadsheet through the words "downloadable spreadsheet," but there's no formatting to indicate it's a link.)
To be clear: I want people to use this data. That's why I make it downloadable. But it would be nice if AALS would name me, because PrawfsBlawg does not actually collect anything: it's a website. And it would be nice if they link to the website, as well as to the data. It would have been really nice if they had reached out first to talk to me about the data, using it, and perhaps even collaborating, but I guess I understand why they didn't(?).
I've sent an email to AALS, and I hope they make changes to their webpage. More importantly, I really, really hope that instead of just taking self-reported hiring information, they use their vast store of information and give us accurate information about the pool of potential hires, the success rates of various groups, and so forth. They are uniquely positioned to do so.
Posted by Sarah Lawsky on July 16, 2019 at 12:17 PM in Entry Level Hiring Report | Permalink
Comments
Thank you for hiring committee post reminder -- I had saved draft and failed to hit publish. It's up now!
Posted by: Sarah Lawsky | Jul 16, 2019 7:42:19 PM
Re: Anon's comment, not to mention specifically the valuable work that Sarah Lawsky does here, as I believe Sarah that you have been the one compiling this information as well!
Posted by: Anon1 | Jul 16, 2019 6:27:07 PM
Speaking of such things, and of valuable work that Prawfs does, is there going to be an entry-level hiring committee thread this year? I have a vague memory that it was expected to start up around July 9, but I may be mixed up about this.
Posted by: Anon | Jul 16, 2019 6:22:02 PM
Sarah -- This is a *really* good point. I did not draft these materials (I know AALS staff have been working really hard on them though), but I did review them a while back and I frankly just didn't catch this. I should have, and I 100% own that. I will see if it can be corrected. Your data and work here is really valuable.
Posted by: Jessica Erickson | Jul 16, 2019 1:25:49 PM
Annual compensation of the AALS Executive Director, according to most recently available Form 990:
$537,264
Posted by: Anon Anon | Jul 16, 2019 1:14:02 PM
"I really, really hope that instead of just taking self-reported hiring information, they use their vast store of information and give us accurate information about the pool of potential hires, the success rates of various groups, and so forth"
Or, in the alternative, end the prohibition on using data for empirical research so that others (besides themselves) can do the actual work...
Posted by: Anon | Jul 16, 2019 1:09:01 PM
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