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Tuesday, February 02, 2016

Submission Angsting Spring 2016

This is the post to share information or ask questions about submitting to law reviews.

The comments can be used to share information, complaints, praise, etc. about which journals you have heard from, which you have not, and so forth.

Additionally, a spreadsheet to gather information is here (and embedded below).

I won't update or watch the spreadsheet. You can go ahead and add your own information by going to the spreadsheet here. The spreadsheet is editable by anyone, except that the "days to rejection" and "days to acceptance" columns are locked because they auto-calculate. (If something about them needs to be changed post a comment, and I will change them.) As more information is added, I will do some pointless data calculations on subsequent sheets.

Rostron & Levit's extremely helpful guide to submitting to law reviews is available here.

Here is the final page of comments.

Update: I have added a column to the spreadsheet entitled "Username" (current column H, after "Days to Acceptance"). This is of course totally optional, but a way to make keeping track easier. For example, if you pick a username (for some reason the sample username "Floop" keeps coming to my mind), you will easily be able to sort by your entries and update them, instead of trying to remember what day you submitted and sorting that way. This also adds information -- showing, for example, that all of the entries on the spreadsheet come from one person, or from lots of people, etc. At any rate, totally optional, and simply a way to add more information.


Posted by Sarah Lawsky on February 2, 2016 at 02:06 PM in Law Review Review | Permalink


The spread sheet contains no data as of 2:22pm.

Posted by: tony smith | Mar 30, 2016 2:22:37 PM

NumNumNum - thanks for the reply. This is my first cycle, so I'm not sure what to expect. It seems rather egregious that so many journals can't even supply a prompt rejection or request for more time.

Posted by: Anon | Mar 30, 2016 11:55:55 AM

Still waiting to hear back from YJIL or HILJ. Any folks with better luck with these two? Have they been quiet all around or are people getting responses from YJIL or HILJ?

Posted by: Globetrotter | Mar 30, 2016 9:40:38 AM

Anon, yeah thats normal. I'd say it's typical for 2/3 jouranls to simply never respond. that's been my experience for about 4 years now.

Posted by: NumNumNum | Mar 30, 2016 9:13:10 AM

I am a non-professor with an offer from a T75 mainline journal. I've received numerous extensions (I submitted the piece 3 weeks ago) and the offer expires at the end of this week. But I still haven't heard from approximately 55 journals to which I've applied. Is this normal? Have folks accepted offers before with lots of journals still outstanding? And is there any way to email editors to remind them of the deadline and get them to make a decision?

Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.

Posted by: Anon | Mar 30, 2016 8:37:09 AM

Was thinking this page was deathly quiet today and wishing for some activity... then wish granted with a ding. Be careful what you wish for. I hope others are experiencing some more positive movement. I think we are reaching the dredges.

Posted by: Seriously | Mar 29, 2016 11:47:12 PM

Person - yeah, they dinged me; I made it to board, though.

Posted by: tony smith | Mar 28, 2016 8:52:47 PM

Duke had a full-board review yesterday.

Posted by: Person | Mar 28, 2016 7:50:29 PM

Anyone know if Wash U is still reviewing?

Posted by: A | Mar 28, 2016 3:26:14 PM

Thanks John Keating! This extreme non-responsiveness is a bit weird ...

Posted by: OJ | Mar 28, 2016 8:37:22 AM

OJ: I had an IP piece out this year that garnered a ~T50 general offer, but never heard back from any of the IP journals. I submitted in mid-February, and didn't accept my offer until mid-March, so it wasn't as if I didn't give them plenty of time to review it...

Posted by: John Keating | Mar 27, 2016 7:26:47 PM

Anon_West: It is possible to let them know about new offers without telling them whether you have a new deadline. I let them know, however. I'd rather give them time to read. And I know that at least two top-10 journals are.

Posted by: tony smith | Mar 27, 2016 5:39:35 PM

tony smith: I generally think it is a good thing to notify journals of all additional offers. Law journal editors are herd animals -- if they see an article getting action from numerous sources, that will pique their interest far more than a single expedite, and if you're lucky can start a cascading effect. This has been my experience both on the editor and submission side.

Posted by: Anon_West | Mar 27, 2016 5:15:01 PM

Seriously: My latest offer expires on Friday. Hopefully, this will be a busy week for me! On another note, someone just posted a rejection from a journal. The person says he/she submitted on 3/17 and was just notified of a rejection. I expedited shortly before that -- but submitted much earlier -- with the same journal, and I have not heard anything. Perhaps, it's a good thing. But who knows.....

Posted by: tony smith | Mar 27, 2016 11:31:02 AM

Any IP folks here? I submitted a patent-related piece mid Feb and haven't heard anything from specialty journals at H/Y/S + Berkeley + Cardozo + Columbia + Michigan + IDEA. I have never expeirneced such a quiet season. I have an offer from a general law review which is ranked pretty low (~120) and I will take it if nothing else comes in, but I'd rather publish this article with one of the above specialty journals and I wonder if anyone here has heard anything (positive or negative) from any of them ... Thanks in advance.

Posted by: OJ | Mar 27, 2016 11:20:11 AM

Tony Smith- I'm with you. Sometimes I think it is a mistake to keep extending the deadline, even if your latest offer effectively does so. It's getting late enough in the season that I'd err on the side of keeping some sense of urgency. Good luck!

Posted by: Seriously | Mar 27, 2016 11:06:38 AM

Is Texas done? Looks like they've stopped responding entirely.

Posted by: anon | Mar 26, 2016 7:08:33 PM

On 14th and 16th I received offers. The second offer extended my already decent deadline. I am always conflicted about notifying journals of the extra time. On the one hand, you want them to have time to read your article. On the other hand, I always fear that they will place my expedited request behind others with an earlier deadline. Needless to say, I informed them of my later deadline; my original deadline has passed, but I have not heard from most of the journals. Ugh. Anyway, I am going to assume that they are all reading and will respond by the later deadline. What do you think?

Posted by: tony smith | Mar 26, 2016 12:27:45 PM

Has anyone heard from gender journals?

Posted by: SL | Mar 26, 2016 7:42:38 AM

Still wondering about UVa. Any word on whether it is full or still reviewing?

Posted by: Anon | Mar 25, 2016 9:53:22 PM

Wanderer: My board read by Vanderbilt was off an expedite (respectable but not tip-top specialty), but given what Bob just wrote its probably a moot point now.

Posted by: Anon_West | Mar 25, 2016 6:28:38 PM

USC is full.

Posted by: Anonprof | Mar 25, 2016 6:18:19 PM

Ding from Vandy saying they were full. Called me Professor even though I'm a practitioner (albeit former adjunct).

Posted by: Bob | Mar 25, 2016 5:34:27 PM

California | Mar 25, 2016 5:11:04 PM: I have never heard from Southern Cal. Ever.

Posted by: Wanderer | Mar 25, 2016 5:16:27 PM

anon | Mar 25, 2016 5:05:56 PM: Why were you holding onto so many in the first place?

Posted by: Wanderer | Mar 25, 2016 5:16:00 PM

Anyone hear from university of Southern California recently?

Posted by: California | Mar 25, 2016 5:11:04 PM

I just withdrew offers from several top30, a couple top10. Good luck to all!

Posted by: anon | Mar 25, 2016 5:05:56 PM

Anonprof, what's your basis for concluding most in the top 50 are closed? They're mostly open on Scholastica and ExpressO

Posted by: waiting | Mar 25, 2016 4:32:13 PM

Thanks, Responder and cheesesticks!

Posted by: thegatekeeper | Mar 25, 2016 3:16:45 PM

Silence, I also would not give up hope! I received notice of a few board reviews recently and received a couple of offers. I think this cycle has some life left in it. I know folks who have received offers into April.

Posted by: seriously | Mar 25, 2016 2:54:10 PM

Silence, I had board reviews at a Top 20 and a Top 30 this week. Neither worked out (darn!) but these journals were still active this week. I wouldn't give up hope yet!

Posted by: Hopeful | Mar 25, 2016 2:14:33 PM

Most of the top 50 are full.

Posted by: Anonprof | Mar 25, 2016 1:58:19 PM

So I've received rejections from almost all of the T20 journals, but I've heard almost nothing from the T20-50 journals. I've received only 3 dings from these 30 journals. Is silence the norm from the T20-50? Or are they typically just slower than the T20 journals? I'm trying to determine whether there is hope in the face of this silence, or if I'm soon dead in the water.

Posted by: Silence | Mar 25, 2016 1:48:07 PM

Agree with Responder that Vandy International is excellent and very well known for its quality articles in the field. I've never been sure how to assess against flagship law reviews though. I'd say within the field it's as excellent a placement as a T15-T30 flagship. How outsiders regard it is beyond me.

Posted by: cheesesticks! | Mar 25, 2016 12:17:29 PM

thegatekeeper, Vandy Transnat'l is a *very* good int'l journal. Much better than you might think from the Vanderbilt name. At least historically, it has published better stuff than a lot of int'l law journals from higher-ranked schools. I had an offer earlier in the season from both Vandy and Mich. Int'l and I'm not sure which I would have chosen b/c I think Vandy is at least as good as Michigan. As for it compared to mainstream, it depends on the stage of your career. If you're untenured, I would definitely go for mainstream, but I doubt I would go lower than top 50 or 60.

Posted by: Responder | Mar 25, 2016 11:45:30 AM

Emory has made offers. They only respond if you make final review and then if you get an offer.

Posted by: Anonprof | Mar 25, 2016 10:37:49 AM

Anon @ Mar 24, 2016 10:00: That is the $64 billion question that always pops up every year: What.About.Emory. This journal is habitually non-responsive.

Posted by: Finally | Mar 25, 2016 8:37:15 AM

I'm not very familiar with international law reviews, but an thrilled to have received an offer from the Vanderbilt Journal of Transnational Law. Does anyone have some advice on how to evaluate this as against a placement in (1) a general law review and (2) another international law review?

Posted by: thegatekeeper | Mar 25, 2016 12:43:41 AM

What about Emory?

Posted by: Anon | Mar 24, 2016 10:00:23 PM

To answer many of the questions above: prior to expedite, dinged by Texas. After expedite, dinged by Vandy. Haven't heard a thing from Virginia, but never do. I have also not heard from Wash. U or GW. But, activity level has definitely picked up this week, compared to last.

Posted by: seriously | Mar 24, 2016 3:42:38 PM

Has anyone heard from the Harvard Business Law Review lately?

Posted by: Taking Care of Business | Mar 24, 2016 10:39:45 AM

Anon_West | Mar 24, 2016 3:30:46 AM: Was that off expedite?

Posted by: Wanderer | Mar 24, 2016 10:17:56 AM

I got a board review at Vanderbilt last week (which did not yield an offer).

Posted by: Anon_West | Mar 24, 2016 3:30:46 AM

Anyone hear from UVA in the last week?

Posted by: anon | Mar 24, 2016 12:22:07 AM

Texas and Vandy - both dings in last week

Posted by: tony smith | Mar 23, 2016 11:38:04 PM

Has anyone heard from Texas or Vbilt recently?

Posted by: asking for a friend | Mar 23, 2016 11:27:41 PM

Has anyone heard from Duke since they've been "closed" on Scholastica?

Posted by: LTR | Mar 23, 2016 11:26:15 PM

Has anyone heard from Wash U. L. Rev. or GWU? I got two offers last week from top specialty journals. Expedited; have about 35 left to go. Many journals don't even acknowledge receipt of expedite requests.

Posted by: tony smith | Mar 23, 2016 11:21:06 PM

Michael- thanks for the info on Northeastern. It looks like there's been some movement reported on the chart. Does anyone know much about NYU Journal on Legislation and Public Policy?

Posted by: Seriously | Mar 23, 2016 6:29:50 PM

Globetrotter, Yes, I had a deadline of Monday and last week HILJ emailed to say that they would not be able to review unless I could get a two-day extension on my other deadline. I got the extension. Then, on Sunday, they emailed again to say the article was in full-board review and they told me that I would hear by Tuesday evening (which I did).

Posted by: Responder | Mar 23, 2016 5:42:17 PM

Responder, were you notified in advance that your article was receiving serious review at HILJ? If not, how does HILJ ensure that an author wont accept any offer from another journal while HILJ is reviewing the same piece?

Posted by: Globetrotter | Mar 23, 2016 5:10:22 PM

"Seriously": I think Northeastern L. J. used to be symposium format, but they're now a general submission type of journal. I submitted on Expresso; I don't think it was via Scholastica. Then when I withdrew the submission, I got an error message (through Expresso) that the journal did not receive the withdrawal because their email was not valid. Very strange, and I'm not entirely sure what's going on with that journal -- other than they were, at some point, open for general submissions.

Posted by: Michael Cicchini | Mar 23, 2016 5:00:13 PM

I submitted to harvard crcl and have heard nothing, even in response to expedite. But there's been some activity reported on the spreadsheet. What do folks know about Northeastern? A relatively new journal? And what are thoughts about NYU Journal on Legislation and Public Policy?

Posted by: Seriously | Mar 23, 2016 4:44:56 PM

I submitted to harvard crcl and have heard nothing, even in response to expedite. But there's been some activity reported on the spreadsheet. What do folks know about Northeastern? A relatively new journal? And what are thoughts about NYU Journal on Legislation and Public Policy?

Posted by: Seriously | Mar 23, 2016 4:44:52 PM

I got an offer from Harvard Int'l yesterday. Apparently they solicited comments from at least two of their faculty, so that might be why they are taking awhile.

Posted by: Responder | Mar 23, 2016 4:30:51 PM

Anecdote comfort: I submitted on 2/27 with a few more submissions over the next few weeks, totaling about 75 (basically, USNWR Top 65 and some top specialty journals). I received about 12 rejections. Today I received a Top 50 offer and an offer from a specialty journal at at a Top 10 school.

Posted by: Cable Guy | Mar 23, 2016 4:15:19 PM

Of potential interest to those of us still angsting, analysis of acceptance by date. http://imgur.com/JvWrX1X

Posted by: walker | Mar 23, 2016 3:28:57 PM

Any word on Virginia? No recent action on the spreadsheet, but they still appear to be open on Scholastica.

Posted by: A | Mar 23, 2016 2:59:21 PM

Globetrotter, I haven't heard anything from them. I sent an email maybe a week ago asking if they could provide an update and didn't hear back.

Has anybody heard from Harvard CR-CL?

Posted by: YesterdayIKilledAMammoth | Mar 23, 2016 1:53:25 PM

Has anyone heard from Harvard International recently? It's been over a month, and I usually hear back from them by now. Also, I am not noticing many postings relating to them in the spreadsheet.

Posted by: Globetrotter | Mar 23, 2016 1:27:55 PM

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