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Monday, October 20, 2014

Law School Hiring, 2014-2015, Thread Two

Please leave comments on this thread regarding whether you have received:

(a)  a callback from a law school and/or accepted it; or

(b) an offer from a law school and/or accepted it; feel free to also leave details about the offer, including teaching load, research leave, etc. A school listed as "offer accepted" may have made more than one offer and may still have some slots open.

Five miscellaneous things:

1. If you don't want your contact information displayed, enter [email protected] or something like that as an email address.

2. There is a  separate thread, "A Clearinghouse for Questions," for general questions or comments about the teaching market. Please do not use the thread below for general questions or comments. (Such comments will be deleted, not out of hostility or in a judgy way, just to keep this thread focused.)

3. There's quite a cache of materials relevant to the law job market under the archive categories Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market and Entry Level Hiring Report.

4. The year's first hiring thread is here. Comments to that thread are now closed.

5. In each of the last five years, someone who is on the market has volunteered to aggregate the information on a spreadsheet. If you would like to volunteer, please contact me directly at slawsky *at* law *dot* uci *dot* edu, and I will get you set up.

Update: We once again have an aggregator! Below is the spreadsheet, which you can view and download here.

All information should come in through the comments. Our aggregator will use the spreadsheet to aggregate the information.  Only the aggregator will be able to edit the spreadsheet, but when the aggregator edits the spreadsheet, those changes will be reflected in the embedded, downloadable version below.

The aggregator will update the spreadsheet approximately once a week.

You can reach the aggregator at aalsaggregator (at) gmail (dot) com.

 A link to the last page of comments is here.


Posted by Sarah Lawsky on October 20, 2014 at 09:00 AM in Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market | Permalink


A few business schools seems to still have open legal studies professor positions: http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/business_law/2015/04/legal-studies-professor-positions-in-business-schools.html

Posted by: Haskell Murray | Apr 10, 2015 11:49:46 AM

I think you just proved my point. Merit is in many ways objective. Idiosyncratic criteria are by definition not objective. Of course there's a merit bar, but most of those clearing it still never stand a chance, due to the whimsical nature of the committee process.

Posted by: anon | Apr 4, 2015 2:34:14 PM

That's "the usual establishment advice"? Not what I heard, and definitely not what you'd learn reading this blog. Bottom line - it's always been tough and idiosyncratic. That doesn't mean it's not driven by "merit," just that merit may have a broader and more varied definition than you think.

Posted by: rumble | Apr 4, 2015 9:36:57 AM

Will this be the year when we finally kiss the Myth of Merit in legal academic hiring goodbye?

The usual establishment advice is that if you're a smart, amiable person working in in-demand areas, have strong credentials, publications, and references, do well in your job talk, and are geographically flexible, you'll have a good shot at getting a job teaching at a law school.

Under current conditions, this is basically false. I know maybe a half-dozen people this year who satisfy all those criteria and did not get a job. The element of chance is now predominant, and that makes this pursuit significantly less appealing.

Posted by: anon | Apr 3, 2015 5:32:32 PM

Seems safe to say there were ZERO b team callbacks this year.

Posted by: anon | Feb 27, 2015 11:30:54 AM

Virginia offer made and accepted.

Posted by: anon | Feb 26, 2015 2:06:13 PM

Posting to indicate that the sheet remains current. As before, if anyone would like to report something off-thread, please email me at aalsaggregator at gmail dot com.

Posted by: aalsaggregator | Feb 25, 2015 11:58:25 AM

Harvard has made an offer, not sure if it has been accepted.

Posted by: anon | Feb 14, 2015 3:19:34 PM

Harvard has made an offer, not sure if it has been accepted.

Posted by: anon | Feb 14, 2015 3:19:33 PM

Sheet is current as of this post.

Posted by: aalsaggregator | Feb 5, 2015 8:28:05 AM

Sheet is current as of this post. As before, if you have information that you would like to share off of the thread, please email me at aalsaggregator at gmail dot com.

Posted by: aalsaggregator | Jan 26, 2015 8:39:19 AM

Any information on legal writing positions (which tend to hire on a later schedule)? I got a rejection letter last week from Georgetown from an application I sent back in the Fall. I've heard that Michigan recently scheduled interviews for its visiting position. Has anyone heard about Duke scheduling interviews?

Posted by: LRW Anon | Jan 22, 2015 10:00:03 AM

When does one go public with one's acceptance of a position? Does one wait for the school to announce, does one wait a month, what are the traditional guidelines?

Posted by: Anon | Jan 18, 2015 1:00:17 AM

Thanks My $.02. That was my recollection from fed tax!

Posted by: freddy | Jan 16, 2015 2:51:04 PM

The rule is that it has to be a new job in your "current occupation." I haven't seen any authorities on whether lawyer-to-law-professor qualifies, but "moving from [insert professional occupation here] to Professor of [insert professional field here]" is often used as the textbook hypothetical of what ISN'T the same occupation. So the answer is probably not.

Whether that "probably" leaves enough wiggle room to try it anyway and hope you don't get audited, and if you do, hope you can convince the IRS it was an innocent mistake and should just have to pay back the deduction plus appropriate civil penalties, is something I can't speak to.

Posted by: My $0.02 | Jan 15, 2015 1:30:12 PM

Has anyone looked into whether you can write off (for tax purposes) the expense of looking for a professor job if you are currently in practice? I don't think you can, but has anyone done any research? Any cases on point?

Posted by: freddy | Jan 15, 2015 12:27:09 PM

Sheet is current as of this post.

Posted by: aalsaggregator | Jan 14, 2015 9:05:41 AM

With faculty returning to campus, what are thoughts on the likelihood of any B Team callbacks happening?

Posted by: anon | Jan 13, 2015 10:21:45 AM

Wyoming's business law offer has been accepted.

Posted by: anon | Jan 9, 2015 12:39:12 PM

Sheet is current as of this post. As always, if you have information that you would like to share off of the main thread, please email me at this name at gmail.

Posted by: aalsaggregator | Dec 29, 2014 7:59:12 AM

AnotherAnon: I don't want to hijack the thread, so I'll just encourage anyone with interest to drop Dan Reynolds or me an email. Dan's is noted in the ad above, and mine's easily discoverable.

Posted by: Marc Falkoff | Dec 26, 2014 10:38:10 AM

Marc, any interest in an energy/environment/admin set of expertise, with interest and ability to teach in other subjects as well?

Posted by: AnotherAnon | Dec 25, 2014 9:50:01 PM

Anon: You're correct. Our other search is still in process.

Posted by: Marc Falkoff | Dec 25, 2014 3:01:31 PM

I understand NIU conducted first-round interviews and callbacks this fall. Was anyone hired?

Posted by: anon | Dec 25, 2014 12:05:04 AM

GreenWave: No, this wasn't strategic. We just got the green light from the administration to search for a business law candidate. We're in the fortunate position to be hiring for at least a couple of positions this year. Maybe we can look forward to your application ...

Posted by: Marc Falkoff | Dec 24, 2014 4:42:35 PM

Marc, was the late timing of this posting a strategic move on NIU's part? (To avoid waste time on applicants likely to take an offer from a higher ranked school and to be sure that you have negotiating leverage. Any applicant willing to start with another school at this point has probably come up empty elsewhere and won't be in a position to negotiate on most offer points.)

I assume NIU just got notice of this opening late (someone leaving or retiring or funds coming available). But it wouldn't be bad strategy, if it were intentional, for a somewhat lower ranked school to employ.

Posted by: GreenWave | Dec 24, 2014 4:12:21 PM

What areas for the Hastings hires?

Posted by: Anon | Dec 23, 2014 6:21:06 PM

Hastings made two entry level hires.

Posted by: California Dreaming | Dec 23, 2014 6:07:09 PM

Hastings hired two entry level professors.

Posted by: California Dreaming | Dec 23, 2014 6:06:15 PM

NORTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF LAW seeks applications for one anticipated full-time tenure-track faculty position beginning August 2015. The College of Law is the only public law school in the Chicago area (located sixty miles from downtown Chicago), combining the strengths of a research university and the values of a public law school, including access by traditionally underrepresented groups and leadership in public service. The law school community is collegial and its small size of approximately 300 full-time students facilitates strong relationships among faculty and students. In keeping with university and college priorities, we are particularly interested in seeing candidates who can bring expertise in business law, including tax, bankruptcy, securities law, and skills-related courses such as transactional lawyering and business planning. The College of Law is distinguished by the diversity of its faculty, and applicants who would add to its diversity are particularly encouraged to apply. Please send a letter of application, resume, and list of names/addresses/email addresses/phone numbers of three current professional references to Professor Dan Reynolds, Chair, Appointments Committee, Northern Illinois University College of Law, Swen Parson Hall, DeKalb, IL 60115-2890, or send materials electronically to [email protected] AA/EEO institution. Preference will be given to applications received by January 15, 2015, although applications will be accepted until the positions are filled. Pre-employment criminal background check required.

Posted by: Marc Falkoff | Dec 23, 2014 3:09:35 PM

Pace is done.

Posted by: anon | Dec 23, 2014 11:56:09 AM

I am aware of two offers accepted (and another offer outstanding and likely to be accepted) that are not posted here and not mine to report. I would suggest people not assume at this point that things are "still open" simply because not reported here. For whatever reason, the under-reporting seems significant this year.

Posted by: anon-prof | Dec 23, 2014 11:04:17 AM

Tulane offer accepted

Posted by: GreenWave | Dec 21, 2014 3:25:28 PM

Has Kentucky made an offer? If so, has it been accepted?

Posted by: Ana Espinosa | Dec 20, 2014 7:37:23 PM

DePaul is not hiring.

Posted by: anon | Dec 20, 2014 1:23:47 PM

Texas Tech offer has been made and accepted.

Posted by: Anon | Dec 20, 2014 11:40:18 AM

The Alabama offer has been accepted.

Posted by: anon | Dec 20, 2014 11:02:55 AM

Sheet is current as of this post.

Posted by: aalsaggregator | Dec 16, 2014 1:27:08 PM

Idaho has made a CivPro hire (offer was made and accepted).

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 16, 2014 12:53:32 PM

I have also heard that Tulane has an outstanding offer.

Posted by: GreenWave | Dec 14, 2014 12:59:26 PM

I have heard that Tulane has made an offer.

Posted by: anon | Dec 11, 2014 3:03:12 PM

I've heard that GW has callbacks lined up

Posted by: anon | Dec 11, 2014 2:26:48 PM

Any word on George Washington's status?

Posted by: cherrytree | Dec 11, 2014 12:27:16 PM

Does anyone know whether Tulane has made an offer for its regulation slot?

Posted by: Tulane? | Dec 11, 2014 11:20:13 AM

Anyone know if Irvine has made an offer?

Posted by: Anon | Dec 11, 2014 10:53:01 AM

There's been an Alabama offer.

Posted by: anon | Dec 11, 2014 10:48:24 AM

The Oklahoma offers have been accepted.

Posted by: boomer | Dec 10, 2014 9:10:59 AM

Did anyone who did a callback at Alabama hear anything today?

Posted by: anon | Dec 8, 2014 4:03:34 PM

Wondering if there are additional details available concerning the offers made by the three schools identified on the spreadsheet. For example were each made for entry level positions, or were any lateral hires, and what were the subject matter areas?

As a related question, do schools with separate appointment committees extend offers to entry level candidates prior to laterals, or is there no particular pattern?

Posted by: asking for a friend | Dec 7, 2014 9:46:58 AM

Sheet is current as of this posting. As always, feel free to email me directly at this name at gmail if you don't want to post on the main thread.

Posted by: aalsaggregator | Dec 6, 2014 10:37:46 AM

Heard of two other offers, but not mine to reveal. I will say that they are both from T-100 schools.

Posted by: anon# | Dec 5, 2014 10:38:35 PM

There's one FSU offer on the spredsheet, but other than that none reported -- I'm hearing of some offers being made, though -- any confirmed reports?

Posted by: Anon | Dec 5, 2014 5:28:45 PM

Harvard has scheduled callbacks.

Posted by: anon | Dec 2, 2014 11:10:56 PM

^^ LOL with aggregator's solution. retention hires are not all that uncommon. keep it classy, folks.

Posted by: anon | Dec 2, 2014 11:59:17 AM

Appropriate or not, it wouldn't be the first time in recent years that UNC has made that sort of spousal hire.

Posted by: anon | Dec 2, 2014 12:17:23 AM

UNC Chapel Hill has hosted a callback in the dire need subject area of "whatever a faculty member's spouse teaches" in its attempt to win the coveted Academic Nepotism award. Did you have a callback at UNC and are not a spouse? Good luck.

Posted by: LoveandMarriageinNC | Dec 1, 2014 5:24:38 PM

Top schools sometimes make offers before AALS to keep certain in-demand candidates (often their own alumni or fellows) away from potential competitors. Schools that have done this in recent years include (at least) Columbia, NYU, Berkeley, and Duke.

Posted by: anon | Nov 30, 2014 9:58:47 PM

Callback Maryland and FSU

Posted by: anon# | Nov 30, 2014 8:35:22 PM

Callback from Stanford, not sure of the timeframe or area.

Posted by: anon | Nov 28, 2014 2:37:57 PM

Anon at 9:32 seems to be reporting an offer from a top 10 school made prior to the AALS conference. I was under the impression that the top 10 schools ordinarily moved later than the rest of the market, often into the New Year; if that is true, what would account for the change this year?

Posted by: anonprof | Nov 28, 2014 10:01:22 AM

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