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Saturday, February 11, 2012

VAPs and Fellowships: Open Thread, 2011-2012

As requested, here is this year's open thread in which comments can be shared regarding news of appointments to VAPs or similar fellowships (for example, the Climenko and Bigelow).  (Here is last year's thread.)

Update: We have an aggregator! Below is the spreadsheet, which you can view and download here.

Additionally, this link will always take you to the last page of comments for this thread.

From the aggregator:

The column titles should be self-explanatory. Most columns are populated by dates, each of which may have a descriptor next to it indicating (method of notification) AND/OR [slots filled/total slots].

Dates correspond to the posting date or the date I (VAP Aggregator) received an email directly.

Reports on some programs leave outstanding questions based on the information provided. I have highlighted those in yellow in the hopes folks will provide additional info.  (Committees, you are especially encouraged to correct me if I make a mistake!)

Some programs are not running this year (either via their webpage and/or reports). I have marked those rows in gray, but preserved them to help make the spreadsheet reusable next year.

Submit any questions/comments/corrections to vapaggregator (at) gmail (dot) com.

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I haven't received any additional information that isn't already posted/in the spreadsheet....

Posted by: VAP Aggregator | Jul 12, 2012 11:43:14 PM

How is the VAP aggregation going? Seems like a hard task to accomplish at this late stage, when most fellows and VAPs have stopped reading this entry.

Posted by: anon | Jun 25, 2012 12:17:13 AM

Wydick Fellowship at UC Davis has interviewed.

Posted by: anon | Jun 8, 2012 5:37:44 PM

Hofstra is filled.

Posted by: anon | Jun 5, 2012 12:07:35 AM

I think it would be useful for future VAP applicants to know how many publications the person had (or didn't have) at the time they applied.

Posted by: anon | May 31, 2012 10:17:24 AM

Anon @ 8:33 - In fact I did setup such an account (see the main body of the post above): vapaggregator (at) gmail (dot) com

I'll try to get together a list this week.

Folks should feel free to start emailing me now. For people who have previously emailed, I will not post your information unless you email me again and tell me it's ok to do so.

I imagine far fewer people on the VAP market have public profiles than do people on the entry-level TT market, so please at a minimum include:

- your name! :)
- institution you'll be at
- position (VAP/fellow/etc)
- your J.D.-granting institution (or equivalent) and degree year
- any other post-baccalaureate degrees, institutions, and years

In the interest of compiling useful information for purposes of comparison, I will not accept any submissions lacking the above information. (Which isn't really that exciting - it just means I won't add it to the spreadsheet.)

Additionally, the following is optional (but helpful!):

- previous VAPs/fellowships/etc
- clerkships
- area(s) you'll be teaching
- VAP/fellowship/etc duration (if pre-determined)

If anyone has any additional suggestions for information to collect, please let me know!

Posted by: VAP Aggregator | May 31, 2012 4:26:30 AM

Denver has made an offer, which has been accepted.

Posted by: Anon | May 30, 2012 11:40:01 PM

VAP Aggregator - I think this is a good idea and you're performing a kind and useful service. Do you want to set up an email account where people can email you privately (e.g. [email protected])?

Posted by: Anon | May 30, 2012 8:33:11 PM

I'm willing to take a stab at it, but: 1) make no promises about being as up-to-date as with the hiring process aggregation; and 2) only want to do it if people both are going to participate and think it will be useful.

If that's the case, I'll throw something together and get started...

Posted by: VAP Aggregator | May 30, 2012 12:54:11 AM

Is the same aggregator offering to take this project on? If so, you are a rockstar.

I'm interested in seeing how things shook out too, although this might be what proves there were only 3 different people on the thread all along ;) Maybe if we're emailing results to an aggregator's gmail account, though, more of the lurkers will report.

Posted by: nutmegger | May 29, 2012 11:45:34 AM

I'd definitely be interested in seeing who ended up where.

Posted by: anon | May 28, 2012 9:46:18 PM

Are folks interested in aggregating the positions people have accepted? Such an effort may not work (people who haven't announced they're leaving professional positions not wanting to report), and certainly would be incomplete, but we may have reached a point where there's a sufficient number of fellowships/VAPs/etc that such an effort would be worthwhile.


Posted by: VAP Aggregator | May 25, 2012 3:06:41 AM

Wash U has finished hiring

Posted by: anon | May 10, 2012 4:09:41 PM

An offer has been made (and accepted) at UConn.

Posted by: anon | May 7, 2012 5:18:20 AM

I have it on strong authority that the Columbia Associates-in-Law Program has finished hiring.

Posted by: Anon | May 6, 2012 5:35:10 PM

BU health VAP made an offer

Posted by: VAPapp | May 2, 2012 2:37:51 PM

Rejection from Temple via snail mail. The letter said they'd waive my fee to apply again next year, I'm assuming they say that to everyone?

Posted by: anon | May 2, 2012 11:56:44 AM

Snail mail rejection from Chicago-Kent. The letter says they have filled all VAP positions for 2012-13.

Posted by: anon | Apr 27, 2012 4:14:49 PM

1. I did get a formal offer letter, but I think this differs.

2. Definitely still a couple schools I have not heard from, but I figured those were dings. There were two schools I wanted to hear from before making a decision, so I asked for an update. They both thankfully told me their decisions within a couple days.

Good luck everyone!

Posted by: anon | Apr 25, 2012 8:11:18 PM

Anyone else still waiting to hear on positions? I'm sitting on an offer and waiting to hear back from one other place. (I'm also assuming I won't get the other position, but I wish they'd just get back to me already so I could know for sure).

Posted by: VAPapp | Apr 25, 2012 6:33:26 PM

no-- offers by phone (informal confirmation by email).

Posted by: junior mint | Apr 25, 2012 5:52:53 PM

What are folks' experiences with offer letters? Are they getting formal ones?

Posted by: anon | Apr 25, 2012 4:32:23 PM

general BU VAP, same as anon @ 6:22.

Posted by: anon @ 3:05 | Apr 25, 2012 4:31:38 PM

Marquette is filled.

Posted by: lmno | Apr 25, 2012 10:23:24 AM

Tulane made an offer.

Posted by: anon | Apr 24, 2012 8:12:14 PM

did the BU letter say whether they filled the slot?

Posted by: twizzlers | Apr 24, 2012 7:33:13 PM

I am a different anon who got a snail mail rejection from BU. I had applied to the general VAP program. And, I can confirm that it was a very nice letter.

Posted by: anon | Apr 24, 2012 6:22:54 PM

Wash U made an offer, as did ASU.

Posted by: Voop | Apr 24, 2012 3:35:45 PM

anon @ 3:05 - which program at BU? thanks.

Posted by: VAPapp | Apr 24, 2012 3:21:17 PM

snail mail rejection from BU - new candidate for "nicest rejection letter ever"

Posted by: anon | Apr 24, 2012 3:05:11 PM

Anyone heard from Denver?

Posted by: Emily | Apr 20, 2012 2:29:10 PM

Has anyone heard anything from Temple?

Posted by: anon | Apr 19, 2012 10:55:25 PM

I think Wash U has started interviewing.

Posted by: anon | Apr 12, 2012 11:12:04 AM

The Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law in Indianapolis is seeking a visiting professor to teach tax courses during the 2012-3 school year, according to the Faculty Lounge: http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2012/03/indiana-indianapolis-seeks-tax-law-visitor.html

Posted by: anon | Apr 12, 2012 10:46:45 AM

Another Northwestern rejection over here.

I'm surprised that we've collectively heard nothing from:
Lewis & Clark
U Conn
Wash U
Any ideas/updates from candidates and/or faculty at these schools?

Posted by: anonimation | Apr 11, 2012 7:13:01 PM

Unsolicited rejection via email from Villanova.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 11, 2012 1:26:27 PM

I don't know if anyone else had the same thoughts, but my initial reaction to the legal history blog posting was that the advantage of having a JD/PhD has clearly grown dramatically over the past few years.

Posted by: anon | Apr 9, 2012 9:44:24 PM

unsolicited email rejection from Northwestern

Posted by: anon | Apr 9, 2012 6:28:46 PM

Based on the legal history posting above, I think we can safely say that Georgetown, Columbia Academic Fellows, and the Climenko are certainly done hiring, as are, of course, the two legal history fellowships at Harvard and NYU...

Posted by: anon | Apr 9, 2012 3:54:26 PM


Duke University’s Institute for Genome Sciences & Policy is seeking two Fellows to work in its Center for Public Genomics (CpG) beginning August/September 2012. The CpG was established in 2004 to explore the value of “open science” norms and practices, and to understand the risks and benefits of intellectual property protections in genomics. The CpG is funded by the National Human Genome Research Institute, and is a national Center of Excellence in Ethical, Legal, and Social Implications Research, supported by a P50 center grant.

Post-Doc Position #1: The Fellow is expected to do research and help with scholarly work within the Center. The Fellow will be responsible for a variety of tasks within the CpG’s different projects, particularly a study of DNA sequencing technologies and the implications of widespread full-genome sequence analysis. The Fellow will conduct research on policy issues related to data-sharing, intellectual property, and genomics research as part of a team involving two research assistants, students, and the Principal Investigator, Robert Cook-Deegan. Qualified candidates should hold an advanced degree in the natural sciences, social sciences, law, medicine or humanities. A scientific or technical background is desirable, but not required.

Post-Doc Position #2: The Fellow will be responsible for a variety of tasks within the CpG that are centered at Duke Law School. His or her focus will be the "Genomics as Information" Project, which seeks to identify, analyze, and propose policy responses to ownership challenges raised as genomic research becomes increasingly based on pure information. The Fellow will conduct research as part of a team led by the Principal Investigator of the project, Professor Arti Rai. Qualified candidates should hold an advanced degree in law (J.D.). Coursework or practice in the area of intellectual property required. A scientific or technical background is desirable, but not required.

For both positions, salary is commensurate with experience. NIH funding requires that the person selected be an American citizen or have a Permanent Resident card (Alien Registration Receipt card or “green card”.)

For additional details and application procedures, visit the Center for Public Genomics website: http://www.genome.duke.edu/centers/cpg/fellowship-opportunities/

Duke University is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer.

Posted by: VAP Aggregator | Apr 9, 2012 12:22:46 PM

This is only a small subset of fellowship recipients, but here is some info on fellowship recipients in the legal history world, via the Legal History Blog: http://legalhistoryblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/2012-13-fellowship-round-up.html

Posted by: anon | Apr 8, 2012 4:29:23 PM

Cross-posted from CyberProf listserv:

IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law is accepting applications for the position of IP Fellow.
The Fellowship starts this year on August 1, 2012 and lasts one year, with the opportunity for renewal a second year.

The IP Fellow works with Prof. Edward Lee, the Director of the Program in Intellectual Property Law, in both teaching and administration. The Fellowship is especially suited for attorneys interested in pursuing a career in law teaching and allows ample time to write an article and attend faculty talks and workshops. Responsibilities include: co-teaching a graduate LLM seminar on international intellectual property and a summer class on writing a note on intellectual property topics; organizing various conferences, including the annual Supreme Court IP Review; and assisting with various initiatives of the IP Program at Chicago-Kent.

Requirements: JD degree and excellent writing skills. If interested, please send a resume and transcript to [email protected] Deadline: Wednesday, April 25, 2012.

Posted by: VAP Aggregator | Apr 7, 2012 2:43:22 PM

I assume silence at this point means not in the running, at least for positions with application deadlines that have already passed.

Posted by: VAPapp | Apr 3, 2012 1:02:21 PM

Any one heard from Villanova? They originally said their timetable was end of March, but still nothing, rejection or otherwise, though I see from the spreadsheet that some people have gotten interviews.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 3, 2012 12:37:44 PM

silence from BU over here too

Posted by: VAPapp | Apr 3, 2012 12:11:59 PM

The Sharswood ding letter said that they had over 100 applicants. So I second the brutal market comment.

Posted by: anon | Apr 3, 2012 12:09:40 PM

Talked to someone in the know at a school doing VAP hiring, many of the applicants are people who should have gotten tenure track jobs so this VAP market is brutal. Good luck.

Posted by: anon | Apr 3, 2012 11:48:04 AM

any word from Temple?

Posted by: anon | Apr 3, 2012 11:46:22 AM

Thanks, Anon @ 11:13.
I hate this game.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 3, 2012 11:36:28 AM

Radio silence from all three.

Posted by: Anon | Apr 3, 2012 11:13:52 AM

Any word from Northwestern, WashU, or Boston?

Posted by: Anon | Apr 3, 2012 10:28:51 AM

unsolicited snail mail rejection from Penn (Sharswood) indicating that they have concluded their hiring

Posted by: VAPapp | Apr 2, 2012 6:42:49 PM

Columbia Academic Fellows rejection came in the mail this weekend.

Posted by: anon | Apr 2, 2012 10:04:56 AM

+1 chicago email (although it was a few days back, and I *had* inquired)

Posted by: anon | Mar 30, 2012 10:40:42 PM

Unsolicited email rejection from Chicago. The wording made it sound like they are filled, but I can't confirm.

Posted by: Dream On | Mar 30, 2012 5:15:52 PM

nutmegger: email, which is what I was advised to do by the faculty placement coordinator at my institution where I earned my JD

Posted by: anon @ 3:04 | Mar 29, 2012 4:44:52 PM

thanks, anon @3:04. same question for you-- did you call, email, or have someone else reach out on your behalf?

i agree on the "first choice" issue. it's of course possible for schools that haven't begun interviewing to say "even if we interview you now, we won't be done interviewing everyone and ready to make offers until after your deadline explodes," but seems worth a try.

Posted by: nutmegger | Mar 29, 2012 3:43:13 PM

I did something similar when I received my first offer. The results varied, including one place making an offer (I'd already interviewed), one place turning me down (I'd already interviewed), several places flat out turning me down, and one or two places telling me they'd get back to me (presumably while they waited for more desirable candidates). A couple of places just ignored my email.

I wouldn't say "school X is my top choice" (unless it absolutely is) - just let the others know you're still interested. There's nothing wrong with wanting to make an informed decision among your options; I imagine most committees would rather have someone there who is excited and decided to be there, not someone who spends part of their time (especially in the third semester) wondering "what if" because they were forced to make a decision before having all the facts.

Posted by: anon | Mar 29, 2012 3:04:17 PM

I sent emails that were essentially the same as a law review expedite. I didn't get any new offers. That's what I meant.

Posted by: anon | Mar 29, 2012 12:27:50 PM

which did you do-- called? emailed? asked your recommender to reach out and inform them that you were in high demand?

when you say it didn't work, you mean it didn't result in an interview?

Posted by: nutmegger | Mar 29, 2012 11:47:47 AM

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