« Of "Practical" Scholarship and Amici | Main | When Can You Contract Out of Procedure? »
Friday, June 17, 2011
Final Comments on the Controversial Reply of Amici
So, in my last post, I linked to a wild brief I filed. Amici and I knew not everyone would like it, but we do like it. Before moving on to my next topic, I’ll try one last post on this topic to explain why we filed it.
First, let me start by saying a few things about our objectives as amici. Our overall objective is to encourage judges to apply the law in light if true historical events, not based on broad assumptions about history, which often are inaccurate. If we don't use some colorful rhetoric, it is quite easy for our briefs to be forgotten at the bottom of the big pile of MSJ paperwork. The judges, but probably not most clerks, can be receptive to the observation that applying legal concepts mechanically to historical claims results in formalistic, unfair opinions. Judges also are able to reflect upon what to do about it. A three-judge Second Circuit panel recently vacated the judgment in the first Holocaust-era art trial in forty years, in which some of the same amici filed a brief. We properly represent a different interest than the partisans with claims and defenses on the line. We properly seek to inject some humanity into the legal process.
Second, I’ll talk about our reply brief specifically. We think the reply has a shot of actually making it past the clerk to the judge and calling attention to what we have to say overall. People have commented that what we did is risky. What do we as amici have to lose? We are not a party in an ongoing relationship with Yale's counsel or the court. On the other hand, we probably are not done filing briefs in restitution cases. The repeat players are paying attention to what we are saying and doing and would notice whether we fought back or not. In the end, the judge in the particular case will allow the brief into the record or he won't; I really don’t believe that anything in the silly opposition or our reply is likely to affect that. I realize some seem to disagree, but I’ll leave it at that.
So, next I’ll move on to the specifics of the opposition and our reply. We wanted to call attention in a blatantly obvious way to the unfounded biases Yale's counsel attempted to inject in a subtle way, which in my opinion were about as subtle as a fart in a car. Hopefully what I say below demonstrates why, but if it doesn’t, then I guess we can just agree to disagree on this. In my opinion, Yale's counsel arrogantly filed a public document treating amici (and me) like incompetent hacks, which we absolutely are not. Here are notes of my critical reading of the opposition [with some correlating notes about the reply]:
1. Page 1 leads off with a clearly minority case that has been called into question by another case without any disclosure of that status. Was it assumed we wouldn’t even bother to Shepardize it?
2. Page 1 says, despite the description of amici's deep expertise in App. A to the Motion, that they have no unique level of expertise. [The expertise we claimed concerned application of legal doctrines to historical claims in light of true historical context. I won’t rehash that experience here.]
3. Page 2 continues using minority view cases without disclosure.
4. Page 3 says amici have "no special interest" because amici didn't publish on the Act of State doctrine or the laches doctrine. Since when did publication on the subject of an amicus brief ever become a requirement in the slightest to be an interested amicus? Counsel is the legal advisor to amici, and even counsel doesn't have to publish. [The reply summarizes amici’s expertise, but as counsel I did not disclose my expertise. We figured if Yale's counsel, who likely knows about my expertise, was demanding that we hold ourselves to the expert standard, instead of the amici standard, then we may as well let the judge see my credentials and on-point publications. FYI: There is an unresolved choice of law issue; N.Y. is one option.]
5. Page 3 identified the institutional affiliation of only one amici at UND and me at NKU (and didn't even bother to spell out the name of my law school), despite the fact that amici are from all across the country. If there is no negative connotation being urged, then why single us out?
6. Page 3 specifically calls out the "Jewish Studies" professor; Professor Berenbaum is one of the world's foremost Holocaust historians. Can't a Jewish Studies scholar be concerned about the development of the historical record in cases not relating to Jewish causes? [By the way, it was this reference that triggered the New Testament reference, not amici's desire to be "Christlike" as someone suggested in the comments to the last post.]
7. Page 4 accuses Professor Paust of signing on just because one of two co-editors of one of his books happens to be co-counsel for the party we think has the Act of State arguments largely right. [Yale's counsel's prior briefs on the doctrine are simplistic and wrong. They are what triggered me to reach out to other potential amici, including Professor Paust who has written directly on the Act of State doctrine. A formalistic Act of State precedent established could be problematic for other human rights cases.]
So, in sum, we concluded there was no need to address the weak, biased, "substantive" arguments made in the opposition brief. I’ve never written anything like it before, although I do enjoy writing with some fire. Not everything though. For instance, I don't think I ever drafted a securities class action defense brief with any passion at all. I think my keyboard at Milbank was wired to shock me if I even tried to muster any passion while drafting one of those. I do not believe that sterility is not a virtue when it comes to legal writing, however. In fact, most cases in which amicus briefs are filed probably triggered some sort of passion in the filer (barring perhaps, tax cases?). Finally, I'll pose this question in a final attempt to make my point: If amici and I had been Harvard professors, even with all of our other credentials being equal, would the opposition ever have been filed?
OK, that’s all on that topic for me. Perhaps you still wouldn’t have fired off a brief like that. I can understand not everyone would. We debated it, but came out where we did. After a catnap, I’m catching a plane out to the West Coast for quite a long trip, so I won’t be able to comment on this further. Nonetheless, I should say, that the comments I received behind-the-scenes on this topic were worth their weight in gold and I appreciated the perspectives provided in all of the comments – public or private.
Posted by Jen Kreder on June 17, 2011 at 11:00 AM | Permalink
TrackBack
TrackBack URL for this entry:
https://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d8341c6a7953ef01538f40874b970b
Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Final Comments on the Controversial Reply of Amici :
Comments
Great article it's really informative and creative which helps us to post new updates. it's really worth it. thanks a lot. If you have more time, please visit:
Posted by: cookie clicker | Jul 26, 2021 4:54:23 AM
Here is a full guide.
Posted by: Floyd Mayweather | Jun 2, 2021 5:32:26 AM
Great Nock.
Posted by: Mackau | Jun 2, 2021 5:31:44 AM
Thanks for sharing this information. I really like your blog post a lot. You actually shared an informative and interesting blog post with everyone.
Posted by: minesweeper | Mar 31, 2021 4:36:00 AM
The article provided me with a lot of valuable information. help me learn many things.
Posted by: usa map | Jan 19, 2021 5:24:10 AM
The article provided me with a lot of valuable information. help me learn many things.
Posted by: usa map | Jan 19, 2021 5:24:10 AM
Thanks for your analysis. Thanks to your analysis to help me understand not really I cannot understand. I saved that in https://puzzlejigsaw24.com
Posted by: html5 games | Nov 27, 2020 4:17:23 AM
Thanks for your analysis. Thanks to your analysis to help me understand not really I cannot understand. I saved that in puzzle jigsaw
Posted by: html5 games | Nov 27, 2020 4:15:52 AM
we concluded there was no need to address the weak, biased, "substantive" arguments made in the opposition brief. I’ve never written anything like it before, although I do enjoy writing with some fire.
I think you're right to say that. This share is great, I found a lot of things in your post.
Posted by: find a word | Oct 19, 2020 4:54:47 AM
I like all of your posts. You did a really good job. Thank you for the information, it helped me a lot. I hope to have more or more entries from you.
bubble shooter
Posted by: fnaf | Oct 15, 2020 12:19:56 AM
It was a different and different article, seeing these kinds of writings makes a difference to reading.
Posted by: basketball games | Feb 10, 2020 5:43:06 AM
You explained very well about comment reply..
Posted by: 2020 Calendar | Dec 7, 2019 3:29:32 AM
If any page has quality posts like yours then I will search for information very quickly. Please donate again
Posted by: run 3 | Feb 27, 2019 4:47:43 AM
Hi guys if you are new on windows 10 and you don't know where are recent documents windows 10 then don't worry here http://documentswindows10.com you solve your all problems
Posted by: eddie007 | Feb 9, 2019 2:13:11 AM
I think your comments reflect a problem many litigants have: they care way more about the issues than the judge will and they take any perceived slight as an injustice. The reality is that the judge and his or her clerks are not going to read the opposition brief in the same way you do. The result is that your reply seems overly defensive and overly wrought to someone not so close to the case. You can write a non-sterile brief without using the tone you used. In the end, with at least some readers -- and certainly me -- your reply made it much more likely that your amicus brief did not receive the deference it perhaps otherwise deserves.
I'm guilty of this same sin at times, I'm sure.
Posted by: anon | Jun 18, 2011 10:47:25 AM
If amici had been Harvard professors, the opposition would have boiled down to "Back off our turf." Had you been Yale professors, probably no opposition would have been filed.
Oh, who am I kidding - had you been Yale professors, you would have been fired. Or something.
Posted by: Matthew Reid Krell | Jun 17, 2011 6:15:08 PM
The comments to this entry are closed.