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Thursday, August 25, 2016

Law School Hiring, 2016-2017, Thread One

Those on the market are invited to leave comments on this thread regarding whether they have received:

(a) a first round interview at a school (including the subject areas the school mentioned, if any, as being of particular interest, and whether the interview offer was accepted);

(b)  a callback from a law school and/or accepted it; or

(c) an offer from a law school and/or accepted it; feel free to also leave details about the offer, including teaching load, research leave, etc. A school listed as "offer accepted" may have made more than one offer and may still have some slots open.

Law professors may also choose to provide information that is relevant to the entry-level market.  

Four miscellaneous things:

1. If you don't want your contact information displayed, enter anon@anon.edu or something like that as an email address.

2. There is a  separate thread, "A Clearinghouse for Questions," for general questions or comments about the teaching market. Please do not use the thread below for general questions or comments. (Such comments will be deleted, not out of hostility or in a judgy way, just to keep this thread focused.)

3. There's quite a cache of materials relevant to the law job market under the archive categories Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market and Entry Level Hiring Report.

4. Finally, in each of the previous years, someone who is on the market has volunteered to aggregate the information on a spreadsheet. If you would like to volunteer, please contact me directly at sarah *dot* lawsky *at* law *dot* northwestern *dot* edu, and I will get you set up.

Update: No aggregator this year; instead, anyone can edit the spreadsheet. It is available here:

 Here is a link to the last page of comments.

Update: You can also add your information via this Google form, which was created by someone on the market this year.

Originally posted August 25, 2016; updated September 1, 2016, to add spreadsheet, and September 16, 2016, to add the link to the Google form.

Posted by Sarah Lawsky on August 25, 2016 at 09:00 AM in Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market | Permalink

Comments

Meat-market interview invite from University of Alabama 8/25/16. Business Law.

Posted by: Anon6 | Aug 25, 2016 2:34:45 PM

Meat-market interview from University of Houston, 8/25/16. IBT.

Posted by: Anon5555 | Aug 25, 2016 4:09:15 PM

Meat-market interview invite from Cal Western 8/25/16. Not specified.

Posted by: anon2016 | Aug 25, 2016 4:15:19 PM

aals w/ AZ State

Posted by: anon | Aug 25, 2016 5:07:18 PM

If you don't mind sharing, what area for Arizona State?

Posted by: Curious | Aug 25, 2016 6:21:44 PM

No area specified but they have a few areas on the spreadsheet civ pro, evidence, ip, torts I think.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 25, 2016 7:33:56 PM

Contacted by U Alabama 8/26 re a potential lateral interview - No areas mentioned but surely its for the business law slot.

Posted by: Asst Prof | Aug 26, 2016 9:49:17 AM

Are the invites coming via phone call or email?

Posted by: anon | Aug 26, 2016 4:14:57 PM

by phone call, w/a follow up by email.

Posted by: anonymous | Aug 26, 2016 4:45:20 PM

I got a phone call -in the past I have gotten both email and phone

Posted by: Anon | Aug 26, 2016 6:23:07 PM

any calls over the weekend?? ever?

Posted by: anonymous | Aug 27, 2016 12:40:55 PM

Only after aals - otherwise it is quiet on weekends though I often got emails on Friday nights

Posted by: Anon | Aug 27, 2016 3:43:25 PM

What is the "conversion ratio" between schools asking for more information from a candidate and invitations to interviews?

Posted by: zelda | Aug 29, 2016 8:48:53 AM

Unfortunately, lower even than the conversion ratio between notices of board reads and offers of publication.

Posted by: guest | Aug 29, 2016 8:55:02 AM

I had 2 top 10 schools ask for more materials last year and no interviews. I have 2 different ones this year so far so we will see if the ratio gets any better.

Posted by: anon | Aug 29, 2016 10:58:40 AM

It is my impression that schools - I don't know this for sure - but I think that schools get the papers and research agendas for about 70-80 serious candidates. I think it is easier this year to be considered a serious candidate because the fellowship classes coming up for jobs are, in my opinion, a little weak than years past, especially in the sense that last year seemed to clear out some of the backlog of fellows who did not get jobs the prior cycle so the number of fellows actively applying this year is smaller it seems. Like in my fellowship program, there are a lot of new fellows who won't be up till next year and the ones that do apply aren't all Supreme Court clerks with Stanford Law Review type publications.

Posted by: anon11 | Aug 29, 2016 11:19:04 AM

Are things still super quiet, or are folks playing their cards close to their chests?

Posted by: anon2016 | Aug 29, 2016 1:54:43 PM

Still quiet look at the spreadsheet last year. The week after Labor Day was a big week. Also the big name schools did not go until late September. Last year may have been somewhat an anomaly because there was a Jewish holiday the second week of September which may have pushed back the big schools but it is still very early as far as calls.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 29, 2016 2:24:13 PM

Received an email today for an interview from an AALS school.

Posted by: FAR-Anon | Aug 29, 2016 2:28:34 PM

Does anyone know whether the DC schools are hiring (American, GW, G-town, etc) and, if so, what areas? Thank you.

Posted by: anon* | Aug 29, 2016 3:04:32 PM

FAR-Anon, was the interview for one of the schools already listed or is this a new one? Could you tell us who it is or at least say the ranking range?

Posted by: anon | Aug 29, 2016 3:16:22 PM

And the subject?

Posted by: anon2016 | Aug 29, 2016 3:18:43 PM

I got a rejection from Penn State law as they are only looking in health law and for a clinic. It's nice that they keep people informed but I never saw on this board schools rejecting people this early based just on the FAR. In fact, I never heard of anyone on this board reporting non-solicited rejections on the FAR alone. I assume everyone not health law would have gotten it. It was odd too because the week before I got a letter telling me about the school only to get the rejection a week later. If only more schools would be so transparent to let us know status...

Posted by: anon | Aug 29, 2016 3:52:32 PM

So anyway, if any of you are are not health law and were awaiting Penn State, if for some reason you did not get the letter, then it is probably unlikely to get an interview since their search is very targeted according to what they listed in AALS.

Posted by: anon | Aug 29, 2016 3:55:05 PM

I am afraid to say too much, but it is for a new school not already listed.

Posted by: FAR-Anon | Aug 29, 2016 3:57:16 PM

I did not receive the rejection letter and will say I am not in health care, but did receive the original one.

Posted by: FAR-Anon | Aug 29, 2016 4:10:32 PM

Received e-mail on 24 August for AALS interview from Penn State on Health Law

Posted by: Anon111 | Aug 30, 2016 5:40:40 AM

AALS interview with Ohio Northern, tax.

Posted by: Anon1020 | Aug 30, 2016 10:21:15 AM

Meat-market interview for Univ. of Florida. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 30, 2016 8:25:31 PM

Meat-market interview with Notre Dame. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 30, 2016 8:25:50 PM

Meat-market interview with Hastings. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 30, 2016 8:26:02 PM

Meat-market interview with LSU. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 30, 2016 8:26:15 PM

Request for materials. Columbia and Yale. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 30, 2016 8:27:59 PM

Uc Irvine no area specified

Posted by: Anon | Aug 30, 2016 9:21:11 PM

Requests from Harvard and Columbia

Posted by: Anon 22 | Aug 30, 2016 9:21:43 PM

Interview with Univ. of Arkansas and Notre Dame.

Posted by: anonymous | Aug 31, 2016 11:27:51 AM

Interview with S. Carolina and Alabama.

Posted by: bell | Aug 31, 2016 11:30:10 AM

AALS interview with S. Carolina. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Aug 31, 2016 1:18:38 PM

Dear Anon 22, congratulations on the request for materials from Harvard. May I ask what teaching areas the school was interested in? Thanks!

Posted by: Anon | Aug 31, 2016 1:21:50 PM

I had a request for information from Harvard too. If it was like the one I received, the request was non-specific as to subject area.

Posted by: B-Team | Aug 31, 2016 1:25:24 PM

Sama here, request from Harvard, not specified area but given my cv most likely one for the less common fields...

Posted by: Anon | Aug 31, 2016 3:41:35 PM

yes, my harvard request was non-specific. I don't make too much of the requests; I think the top schools go through and pick off the top 60-80 candidates and just get their stuff on file (depending on what they are looking for schools may differ on whose is top 60-80). Like i would not be surprised if most of the fellows of the major programs, phd. people, supreme court clerks, all get these requests for materials stuff from the administrative person.

I am not getting too hopeful as when I was on the market before I got some requests like this and it did not yield to anything. It's a definite positive sign, but I'm not so sure it means much one way or the other, though I think if they did not request your materials and you did not otherwise send them in that is probably not a good sign. So that is why I posted it -

Posted by: anon | Aug 31, 2016 3:50:51 PM

how many people will HLS interview at AALS?

Posted by: anon | Aug 31, 2016 3:57:25 PM

I don't think Harvard cares what area you teach in at this stage.

Posted by: athlete dying young | Aug 31, 2016 4:06:27 PM

most schools do 25-30.

Posted by: anon | Aug 31, 2016 4:08:27 PM

a couple of years ago, i got a request for additional materials from yale a couple of weeks before the meet market, so top schools don't necessarily reach out to everyone right away.

Posted by: anon | Aug 31, 2016 4:17:47 PM

Does anyone know who the hiring chair is for Harvard (or any of the committee members)?

Posted by: anon | Aug 31, 2016 6:10:11 PM

Likewise, any committee contact details for any of these?: Virginia, Duke, Northwestern, Georgetown, UT Austin, and George Washington.

Posted by: anon | Aug 31, 2016 6:53:29 PM

HLS: https://reclaimharvardlaw.wordpress.com/faculty-committees-list/
Scroll down for entry-level appointments committee.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 1, 2016 7:16:51 AM

That's for the 2015-2016 academic year.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 1, 2016 7:34:07 AM

the harvard list i believe may be for last year it says april 2016. the spreadsheet i have of hiring chairs has a different hiring chair listed- i forget who but it is not the same guy on that list. schools probably may not update their lists with the fall 2016 info yet.

Posted by: anon | Sep 1, 2016 7:50:26 AM

For what it's worth, our committee met yesterday and made some initial selections. We'll be reaching out to those folks over the next few days. When the second distribution comes out, we will make additional selections (from both the first and second distributions). There were some we identified in the first distribution who we really like, but we need to request additional information -- primarily relating to curricular fit. I offer this information merely as one school's process in case it helps shed some light on the process. Best of luck to all!

Posted by: AnonHiringChair | Sep 1, 2016 9:24:02 AM

will there be a second bulletin out today?

Posted by: anon | Sep 1, 2016 11:12:28 AM

Meat-market interview with Seton Hall. Crim

Posted by: AnonSearcher | Sep 1, 2016 3:31:00 PM

AALS interview with Tennessee. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 1, 2016 3:43:37 PM

AALS interview with U. of Florida. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 1, 2016 3:44:14 PM

AALS interview with BU. Business law.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 1, 2016 3:44:24 PM

Did Tenn., Fl, and BU all call today?

Posted by: anon | Sep 1, 2016 3:46:51 PM

Thanks so much for contributing, AnonHiringChair. That information is really helpful to know.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 1, 2016 3:46:56 PM

Is there a volunteer out there who would be willing to put the information submitted so far into a spreadsheet for easy reference? I'm starting to see some of the same schools being listed twice for the same subjects... Thanks!

Posted by: Anon | Sep 1, 2016 3:49:37 PM

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