Thursday, January 31, 2013
Law School Hiring, 2012-2013, Thread Two
[Originally published 10/14/12; bumped 11/13/12; final bump, 1/31/13.]
We invite those on the market to leave comments on this thread regarding whether they have received:
(a) a callback from a law school and/or accepted it; or
(b) an offer from a law school and/or accepted it; feel free to also leave details about the offer, including teaching load, research leave, etc. A school listed as "offer accepted" may have made more than one offer and may still have some slots open.
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1. If you don't want your contact information displayed, enter firstname.lastname@example.org or something like that as an email address.
2. There is a separate thread, "A Clearinghouse for Questions," for general questions or comments about the teaching market. Please do not use the thread below for general questions or comments. (Such comments will be deleted, not out of hostility or in a judgy way, just to keep this thread focused.)
4. All information should come in through the comments. Our aggregator will use a spreadsheet to aggregate the information. Only the aggregator will be able to edit the spreadsheet, but when the aggregator edits the spreadsheet, those changes will be reflected in the embedded, downloadable version below. Please be patient with the aggregator, who will try to update this spreadsheet once a day, but may have a job, and perhaps may even be on the market. [As of 1/31/13, this thread is no longer being aggregated.]
5. This year's first hiring thread is here. Comments on that thread are now closed.
Here is the spreadsheet, which is downloadable.
Update: Here is a link to the last page of comments.
Update: As of 2/27/13, comments on this thread are closed. If you have information about entry level hires, please post that information in the comments to the entry level hiring data collection post.
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Was the Kansas ding by email or snail mail? Thx!
Posted by: anon | Oct 18, 2012 2:56:31 PM
When did you get the callback from Seattle?
Posted by: anon | Oct 18, 2012 3:17:37 PM
Any callbacks from South Carolina?
Posted by: wardman | Oct 18, 2012 3:51:37 PM
Ding by email from San Diego
Posted by: ding dong | Oct 18, 2012 3:54:50 PM
No word from South Carolina as pertains to this candidate yet...
Posted by: Anon | Oct 18, 2012 4:06:15 PM
Mrs. Not Sipi, is that Ole Miss? or Mississippi College?
Posted by: Ana Espinosa | Oct 18, 2012 4:06:59 PM
Ditto the questions about the Temple and Kansas dings... email? Snail mail? Thank you!
Posted by: FARout | Oct 18, 2012 4:07:13 PM
Posted by: mrs. not sippi | Oct 18, 2012 4:11:21 PM
On hold at San Diego. By email.
Posted by: anon | Oct 18, 2012 5:04:35 PM
What percent of callbacks, by school, do you suppose are being reported? Seems awfully light for a week after the conference.
Posted by: yetanotheranon | Oct 18, 2012 6:04:27 PM
yetanotheranon -- maybe the people with callbacks are too busy prepping for them to post on here.
(Personally, I've got nothing. One school emailed to say thanks, and they'll be in touch if they get funding for a position that would match up with what I do -- but it was the secretary who sent it, so I strongly suspect that they're sending it to everyone who interviewed. Total silence from everywhere else.)
Posted by: An explanation | Oct 18, 2012 6:10:10 PM
I've been told that schools are extending far fewer callbacks than in previous years. So, many candidates have no callbacks at this point because schools are calling only their A+ choices, whereas in previous years they would've invited the A and A- candidates as well. Obviously, this is creating rather large "B lists." But, on a certain level, it's understandable. Callbacks are expensive propositions.
This seems to have at least three notable implications. First, those candidates with callbacks have a potentially greater likelihood of landing the job. Second, candidates doing multiple callbacks at this point can only take one job, which means the process might extend into the new year for those of us on various B lists. Third, committees are more carefully evaluating who to call back, so the process of extending even the initial invites may be taking longer.
Posted by: FARout | Oct 18, 2012 7:03:40 PM
Posted by: Awesome | Oct 18, 2012 10:02:11 PM
Posted by: Anon | Oct 18, 2012 10:10:14 PM
Posted by: Anon | Oct 18, 2012 11:47:35 PM
I heard Duke has made some calls.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 6:58:20 AM
William & Mary
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 7:24:47 AM
I heard Northwestern has made calls
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 8:04:40 AM
Has anyone heard either way on NYU?
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 9:26:30 AM
Anon, what subject for William & Mary? And, was it entry level?
Posted by: WilliamMary | Oct 19, 2012 10:19:49 AM
anyone hear from UCLA?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 10:48:35 AM
I interviewed with UCLA but have not heard either way.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 10:53:34 AM
W&M = entry level. Not sure about subject (it's not my callback).
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 11:29:33 AM
Any word on Loyola Chicago? How about Connecticut?
Posted by: Candidate | Oct 19, 2012 11:48:15 AM
Can someone confirm Northwestern has called? And Kansas has sent dings (per this thread), but what about callbacks?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 11:52:52 AM
I am surprised to the degree that this board overlaps with the information that I am getting from other back channels (friends, other intel). That is comforting. It gives me hope that schools that are not mentioned on this thread have not yet made calls.
Posted by: Ana Espinosa | Oct 19, 2012 12:03:27 PM
Florida Int'l has issued callbacks
Posted by: jessica rabbit | Oct 19, 2012 12:08:58 PM
Texas Southern (evidence)
Posted by: texanon | Oct 19, 2012 12:13:03 PM
any word from irvine? davis?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 12:16:01 PM
Any word from ohio state?
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 12:20:07 PM
How about Cincinnati? Western State?
Posted by: FARFromOver | Oct 19, 2012 12:29:00 PM
UNLV is scheduling job talks with laterals who applied for legal writing -- not sure if they've made callbacks yet for folks from AALS.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 12:36:57 PM
Also wondering if someone can confirm Duke. Thanks.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 1:24:53 PM
I can confirm that Northwestern has called.
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 1:51:30 PM
rumor has it that NYU is not hiring, other than for lawyering (despite interviewing people).
Posted by: on the market (again) | Oct 19, 2012 2:11:34 PM
Any word from Emory or Georgia?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 2:19:45 PM
any word from maryland?
Posted by: John | Oct 19, 2012 2:43:38 PM
Can anyone confirm that NYU is not hiring, and if so, is it ok for them not to tell candidates that before taking one of their AALS slots?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 2:50:41 PM
I interviewed with Emory, as did someone else I know, and neither of us has heard a peep.
Posted by: ATL | Oct 19, 2012 2:51:11 PM
Wow, you really think NYU would send professors to AALS even if they were not hiring? I interviewed with NYU and they said nothing about not hiring . . .
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 3:03:39 PM
Someone said they were on hold at Colorado? Can anyone confirm that callbacks have been issued?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 3:20:25 PM
Anyone heard from W&L, BC, or Texas?
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 3:27:52 PM
ding Depaul. I'm so sad.
Posted by: SadAnon | Oct 19, 2012 3:58:15 PM
Has anyone heard from / about Fordham?
Posted by: Mahdrof | Oct 19, 2012 4:05:03 PM
any word from GW? American?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 4:07:21 PM
what about W & L, beyond the transnational law offer?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 4:08:45 PM
Anyone hear anything from U-Hawai'i for the crim position?
Posted by: Hi-anon | Oct 19, 2012 4:13:52 PM
American was still Skyping until at least a couple days ago.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 19, 2012 4:18:08 PM
nothing from Hawaii on my end. Also crim law interview.
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 4:28:55 PM
On hold at Temple, Colorado, and Tennessee. No other news yet.
Posted by: farnonymous | Oct 19, 2012 4:40:43 PM
From what I understand, NYU rarely hires entry-level but once in a while they do. For that reason, they interview at the hiring conference for doctrinal as well as lawyering folk.
Posted by: nibblesnotbites | Oct 19, 2012 6:09:08 PM
Maryland and Ohio State have made calls.
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 6:18:40 PM
For what subject areas did Maryland and Ohio State make calls?
Posted by: anotheranon | Oct 19, 2012 6:31:10 PM
Has anyone heard from Texas Tech?
Posted by: anon | Oct 19, 2012 8:49:09 PM
ding Nova Southeastern
Posted by: SadAnon | Oct 19, 2012 9:18:00 PM
ding from Southwestern ... radio silence from everyone else (15+ schools)
Posted by: Axel | Oct 19, 2012 11:00:59 PM
Axel, did you get a ding, saying that they are no longer pursuing your candidacy? A friend of mine got a letter from Southwestern that was not a ding, or a hold, but to state that Southwestern would be in touch within the next 2 months as they assessed needs.
Posted by: Ana Espinosa | Oct 20, 2012 12:00:36 AM
farnonymous, what's your subject area?
Posted by: Anon | Oct 20, 2012 12:10:47 AM
Have not heard from Texas Tech. Anyone hear from Suffolk?
Posted by: anon | Oct 20, 2012 7:24:36 AM
Haven't heard a thing from Suffolk (and they initially had said they'd move quickly).
Posted by: nutmegger | Oct 20, 2012 10:00:18 AM
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