Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Are All Legal Ethics Professors Worthless Idiots?
I ask this question not because I think it's true--I abhor generalizations like this (for the most part)--but because Paul Campos either couldn't pass up what he thought was a nice witticism, regardless of whether it is true or false, or he believes it to be an accurate statement.
Disclosure: I teach legal profession, although I mostly don't write in the area. I don't think whether I'm an idiot or not is related to that fact.
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Is Paul Campos really still alive and kicking? Surely post-tenure review at Colorado would have run its course by now!
Posted by: Brian | Sep 12, 2012 8:31:17 AM
I think it's the former.
With that said, my professional responsibility class was an exercise in box-checking that was little help for the other exercise in box-checking that at least had relevance to my bar admission. In terms of institutional emphasis, professional responsibility was somewhere around legal writing courses.
Posted by: Morse Code for J | Sep 12, 2012 9:19:19 AM
I can't wait to share this with my PR class on Friday. This one belongs in the Lawyers Crossing Lines book we are using as a supplement. I have been trying to focus on real life issues graduates will encounter and nothing brings home the point more than stories like these or anecdotes from my many years of practice and as a compliance officer. It's very easy for the PR course to be a box checking exercise but it's a real disservice to the students and the public not to make it relevant especially since so many students will not end up in the big firm jobs of their dreams in this market.
Posted by: VAP | Sep 12, 2012 1:56:32 PM
fwiw, i find PR profs to be tops in the legal academy in terms of understanding real lawyering. yes, there are too many schools where PR is ignored, or treated as a second class topic, or left to unqualified teachers. but because the topic involves the law of lawyering itself, you find a lot of profs who are elbow deep in the practice of law.
Posted by: John Steele | Sep 12, 2012 2:08:39 PM
Where did Campos say "All Legal Ethics Professors Worthless Idiots" in that aarticle? Although I do agree with that characterization, I find no such statement there.
Posted by: anonymous | Sep 12, 2012 2:29:45 PM
Well, in a comment he said "Those who can't do teach. Those who can't teach teach PR." An obvious piece of hyperbole, or rhetorical overgeneralization, clearly not intended to be taken literally, I would have thought. But law professors are a sensitive lot these days . . .
Posted by: Barbara Seville | Sep 13, 2012 1:23:35 AM
I found my PR class quite interesting and--to my surprise--still find it occasionally useful. Still, most of my comrades likely could have passed the MPRE with simple reference to the "Jesus minus one" method.
Posted by: Leland Unruh | Sep 21, 2012 11:13:04 AM
Faculty Course Questionnaire : Spring 2012
LEGAL ETHICS PROFESSIONL
Number of responses
Avg. Median Lowest Highest 1_ _2_ _3_ _4_ _5_ _6_ SD
Course overall 2.6 _ 2.0_ 11 _ 7 _ 5 _ 6 _ 4 _ 1_ 1.5
Instructor overall 2.9 _ 3.0_ 10_ 6 _ 6 _ 5 _ 4 _ 3_ 1.7
Compared to my undergrad instructors, this instructor was
2.8_ 2.5_ 9_ 8 _ 6 _ 6 _ 3_ 2 _ 1.5
Rate this course compared to all your other law school courses
2.3 _ 2.0_ 15 _ 7 _ 3 _ 6 _ 2 _ 1 _ 1.5
Rate this instructor compared to all your other law school instru
2.6 _ 2.0_ 13 _ 5_ 7 _ 4_ 3 _ 2 _ 1.6
Posted by: anon | Oct 11, 2012 8:47:23 PM
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