Monday, August 27, 2012
Law School Hiring, 2012-2013, Thread One
NB: Bounced to the front every ten days or so.
We invite those on the market to leave comments on this thread regarding whether they have received:
(a) a first round interview at a school (including the subject areas the school mentioned, if any, as being of particular interest, and whether the interview offer was accepted);
(b) a callback from a law school and/or accepted it; or
(c) an offer from a law school and/or accepted it; feel free to also leave details about the offer, including teaching load, research leave, etc. A school listed as "offer accepted" may have made more than one offer and may still have some slots open.
Law professors may also choose to provide information that is relevant to the entry-level or the lateral market.
Four miscellaneous things:
1. If you don't want your contact information displayed, enter firstname.lastname@example.org or something like that as an email address.
2. There is a separate thread, "A Clearinghouse for Questions," for general questions or comments about the teaching market. Please do not use the thread below for general questions or comments. (Such comments will be deleted, not out of hostility or in a judgy way, just to keep this thread focused.)
4. Finally, in each of the last four years, someone who is on the market has volunteered to aggregate the information on a spreadsheet. If you would like to volunteer, please contact me directly at slawsky *at* law *dot* uci *dot* edu, and I will get you set up.
We now have an aggregator, and we will thus continue our spreadsheet approach: All information should come in through the comments. Our aggregator will use a spreadsheet to aggregate the information. Only the aggregator will be able to edit the spreadsheet, but when the aggregator edits the spreadsheet, those changes will be reflected in the embedded, downloadable version below.
Here is the spreadsheet, which is downloadable.
Please be patient with the aggregator, who will try to update this spreadsheet once a day, but may have a job, and perhaps may even be on the market.
Update: Here is a link to the last page of comments.
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Many schools will have held a few slots for the 3rd distribution (which went out yesterday), and will be filling those slots over the next few days (either with folks from the 3rd distribution or folks from other distributions if the 3rd doesn't contain the droids they're looking for). I got such a call today.
Posted by: FARnear | Sep 28, 2012 3:36:54 PM
Tennessee's Lincoln Memorial - they called about Property and Commercial Law.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 28, 2012 4:08:53 PM
ding from Cardozo in response to a target packet
Posted by: FARout | Sep 28, 2012 4:48:41 PM
has anyone heard from Hastings?
Posted by: SF lover | Sep 28, 2012 6:43:37 PM
I have a friend on the Hastings faculty and she said she didn't think they were doing any hiring this year.
I don't know that schools are done. I got a call yesterday and a couple of colleagues also got calls this week.
I also got the Cardozo ding.
Posted by: nibblesnotbites | Sep 28, 2012 8:27:29 PM
Cardozo ding sent via e-mail or USPS?
Posted by: FARFromHeaven | Sep 28, 2012 10:27:29 PM
The odds of anyone getting a call now are pretty slim.
Posted by: AnonLawProf | Sep 28, 2012 11:09:16 PM
Please bump to the front
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2012 8:52:25 AM
I had two interview requests last week, one just yesterday and one Thursday. It is late, but I actually don't think it's quite over.
Posted by: Anonanon | Sep 29, 2012 9:12:04 AM
My Cardozo ding came via email.
Which schools are extending these late(r) interview invites?
Posted by: FARout | Sep 29, 2012 3:11:47 PM
I'm curious about Northwestern and USC. They don't show up on the aggregated list but they must have made calls by now, right?
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2012 4:18:52 PM
anotheranon | Sep 28, 2012 3:29:54 PM,
It's feasible, perhaps probable, that most interview slots are filled, but there's no way the process is done.
When I was on the market, I checked my voice mail at work upon arrival at AALS hiring conference, and there was a message for an interview, and with a good school at that!
Posted by: AnonProf | Sep 29, 2012 5:36:24 PM
@anon, I haven't heard anything from the schools you listed, but I'm wondering the same thing about other major schools that don't show up on the call spreadsheet, like Michigan, Georgetown, and UC-Davis. I have reason to believe these three are still looking at candidates, which (if the school spreadsheet is comprehensive) could mean they haven't made *any* of their calls yet. Happy to receive corroborating info or data to the contrary...
Posted by: anonagain | Sep 29, 2012 6:11:34 PM
@anonagain I haven't heard from the three schools you list either, although I have interviews with comparable top 20ish schools. And I received a call from a top 15 school this past week. So maybe the process is not over yet.
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2012 6:45:17 PM
Northwestern has made some calls, but I don't think they are done filling up their slots.
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2012 7:00:47 PM
Michigan and Georgetown have made callls
Posted by: Non | Sep 30, 2012 4:48:10 PM
Michigan has definitely made calls.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 1, 2012 4:29:17 AM
U Montana (Nat Resources), U New Mexico (Nat Resources).
Posted by: anon | Oct 1, 2012 11:14:25 AM
Duke made an offer for employment.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 1, 2012 11:24:19 AM
When did Duke do the job talk that resulted in that offer?
Posted by: SF lover | Oct 1, 2012 12:21:20 PM
It's definitely not over yet. I received two calls since Friday.
Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2012 12:38:08 AM
2 calls came in today from schools first reported weeks ago. Guess can still hold on to some hope.
Posted by: anonyluck | Oct 2, 2012 1:17:12 AM
In August, I applied to George Mason via the school's online job site, and I received a notification late last week that the position had been filled. It seemed to be an automatically generated notice. I interpreted it as a rejection in response to a targeted application. Perhaps they are done inviting people for interviews?
Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2012 8:28:44 AM
anon 8:28:44 -- FYI, I also applied to George Mason via the school's site. I have not received a notice informing me that the position has been filled; nor have I been invited to interview with them.
Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2012 8:45:16 AM
Two calls in the 75-100 range on Monday. It's not over, I guess.
Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2012 10:00:07 AM
@anon (10/2) - I received the same response from GMU on Monday as well.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 2, 2012 10:08:30 AM
Hastings has extended at least three interview offers.
Posted by: hastings | Oct 2, 2012 10:16:12 AM
American seems to be doing a third round of calls - for skype interviews.
Posted by: nibblesnotbites | Oct 2, 2012 11:15:53 AM
Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2012 1:50:48 PM
So has anyone heard from New Hampshire? They posted in the bulletin but no one has posted that they are interviewing...
Posted by: nibblesnotbites | Oct 2, 2012 2:29:50 PM
Anyone heard from UC Davis? They're not listed on the spreadsheet...
Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2012 2:46:38 PM
Davis made calls last week
Posted by: Anon1 | Oct 2, 2012 2:49:15 PM
Call from a T75-100 in the last 24 hours. Sounded like they still had a few slots left, too.
Posted by: anonomonkey | Oct 2, 2012 3:33:50 PM
Nor have I regarding George Mason
Posted by: ccarts | Oct 2, 2012 7:19:11 PM
Ding from Richmond via email in response to a target packet
Posted by: FARout | Oct 2, 2012 9:02:23 PM
I got the email from GMU but do not recall applying for anything.
Posted by: anonymony | Oct 3, 2012 11:58:45 AM
An AALS interview scheduled with Maine today (business law).
Posted by: Rundel | Oct 3, 2012 5:50:24 PM
Posted by: VAP | Oct 3, 2012 6:36:22 PM
An AALS interview scheduled with Pittsburgh today (unspecified field).
Posted by: Rundel | Oct 3, 2012 6:40:03 PM
FYI, the information posted on this board cannot be trusted. Can't elaborate.
Posted by: anonnie | Oct 4, 2012 8:31:11 PM
Why can't you elaborate considering you're already anonymous? Is there specific information you know to be false?
Posted by: little orphan annie | Oct 5, 2012 12:20:46 AM
Sorry, all I can say is that some people (not all, of course) are reporting FRC interviews that they could not possibly have.
Posted by: anonnie | Oct 5, 2012 10:35:43 AM
AALS Northern Illinois (yesterday) crim and crim pro - appears that there slots are now taken or nearly all taken
AALS Tulsa (today) crim and crim pro - I was offered three interview slots, so there may or may not be two left.
This may be a case of slots having been opened up by others cancelling, but they did not say that and I am grateful to have the interviews regardless.
@anonnie - I'm not sure what advantage would be gained by being dishonest on an anonymous blog. I also don't see any point in making a non-specific allegation of dishonesty. The point of this blog is to disseminate truthful information. If you have specific information which would be useful to other candidates, please provide it. Otherwise...
Posted by: crimprof | Oct 5, 2012 7:21:27 PM
At least one person on here has reported receiving an interview from our school in a subject area we aren't even considering.
Posted by: AnonLawProf | Oct 5, 2012 11:17:58 PM
OK, so either tell us which school and subject, or email the moderator directly so the info will be removed. There's a good chance it's an honest mistake from someone who got a call in which the subject was unspecified and so s/he assumed the interview was for his/her specialty.
Posted by: gwen stefani | Oct 5, 2012 11:30:38 PM
Posted by: VAP | Oct 6, 2012 5:02:07 PM
Would like to write Chairs at select schools. Am interested in FL Coastal; Elon; Nova Southeastern; Catholic; George Mason; Georgetown and St Mary's, among others. Can supply Chairs for the following for the benefit of all: GW=Tom Colby and UDC=Wilhemina Reuben-Cooke.
Please advise soonest. Many thanks.
Posted by: NeedChairsInfo | Oct 8, 2012 9:25:21 AM
NeedChairsInfo -- there's another thread on this blog that has the information you want, but if you're looking to schedule interviews, well, you're too late. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there it is.
Posted by: FARout | Oct 8, 2012 4:33:18 PM
Has no one heard from University of Georgia?
Posted by: Athena | Oct 9, 2012 12:23:07 AM
Georgia contacted me weeks ago, and from the slot choices they gave me, they were almost full.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 9, 2012 10:58:15 AM
It's interesting how truly idiosyncratic this process is. As of just two weeks ago, I had scheduled barely any interviews. But in the subsequent short, and relatively late, window of time, I've scheduled quite a few (including one yesterday). So, for next year's ambitious crop of candidates who may read this blawg for advice, I urge you to stay positive if your interview numbers aren't initially where you think they should be. Late scheduling can and does happen.
Posted by: FARFromOver | Oct 9, 2012 3:04:13 PM
I wrote the other day requesting contact info on Chairs from select schools. I also promised you the Chair from Howard Law. It's Reginald Robinson.
I did not see my inquiry or the info I provided posted. Did I miss it? The sooner it's posted, the sooner the responses.
I realize AALS is later in the week. I am not going, but I know the attendees are given a list of all schools attending which also includes info on Chairs.
Assuming you're still inclined to update, that would be a good (and definitive) primary source for you. If you don't update, but can assist me in getting my hands on the AALS list, I'd be most grateful.
You may correspond with me directly (email address embedded elsewhere), but I wish to remain anonymous as far as the blogging public is concerned.
Posted by: ChairsInfo | Oct 9, 2012 4:26:26 PM
For those of you who got interviews at Florida A&M, could you please post contact information for the hiring chair? Thank you!
Posted by: anotheranon | Oct 9, 2012 5:35:54 PM
@ChairsInfo here is the info I have re: the schools you asked about, can't vouch that it is accurate as to Catholic
Professor Marc Rohr is the chair at Nova; Professor Naomi Mezey is the chair at G'town; Professor Sarah Duggin is the chair at Catholic
Posted by: anotheranon | Oct 9, 2012 5:40:52 PM
lundy langston is the hiring chair @famu.
Posted by: little orphan annie | Oct 9, 2012 5:49:10 PM
La Verne invited me to interview at AALS today for a look see visit teaching crim, crim pro and evidence. They still had several interview slots left as of this afternoon. So if anyone is interested in such a position, it might be worth contacting the hiring chair Prof Diane Klein.
Posted by: crimprof | Oct 10, 2012 10:37:29 PM
FYI - just for purposes of information, I got a phone call for an interview yesterday, off a cancelation. I think staying in communication with the schools you are really interested in helps.
Posted by: Bacon | Oct 13, 2012 8:40:03 AM
This thread is now closed. Please post comments on the second thread:
Posted by: Sarah Lawsky | Oct 14, 2012 8:44:38 PM
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