Monday, August 27, 2012
Law School Hiring, 2012-2013, Thread One
NB: Bounced to the front every ten days or so.
We invite those on the market to leave comments on this thread regarding whether they have received:
(a) a first round interview at a school (including the subject areas the school mentioned, if any, as being of particular interest, and whether the interview offer was accepted);
(b) a callback from a law school and/or accepted it; or
(c) an offer from a law school and/or accepted it; feel free to also leave details about the offer, including teaching load, research leave, etc. A school listed as "offer accepted" may have made more than one offer and may still have some slots open.
Law professors may also choose to provide information that is relevant to the entry-level or the lateral market.
Four miscellaneous things:
1. If you don't want your contact information displayed, enter firstname.lastname@example.org or something like that as an email address.
2. There is a separate thread, "A Clearinghouse for Questions," for general questions or comments about the teaching market. Please do not use the thread below for general questions or comments. (Such comments will be deleted, not out of hostility or in a judgy way, just to keep this thread focused.)
4. Finally, in each of the last four years, someone who is on the market has volunteered to aggregate the information on a spreadsheet. If you would like to volunteer, please contact me directly at slawsky *at* law *dot* uci *dot* edu, and I will get you set up.
We now have an aggregator, and we will thus continue our spreadsheet approach: All information should come in through the comments. Our aggregator will use a spreadsheet to aggregate the information. Only the aggregator will be able to edit the spreadsheet, but when the aggregator edits the spreadsheet, those changes will be reflected in the embedded, downloadable version below.
Here is the spreadsheet, which is downloadable.
Please be patient with the aggregator, who will try to update this spreadsheet once a day, but may have a job, and perhaps may even be on the market.
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Posted by: anon | Sep 2, 2012 3:16:27 PM
Thomas Jefferson AALS
Posted by: anon | Sep 3, 2012 7:23:04 AM
AALS with Wake Forest.
Posted by: CorpReport | Sep 3, 2012 9:41:55 AM
AALS with St. Thomas, health and civ pro
Posted by: FARout | Sep 3, 2012 12:27:00 PM
AALS interview, Hofstra crim
Posted by: crimprof | Sep 3, 2012 1:48:06 PM
AALS with Loyola LA
Posted by: anon | Sep 3, 2012 2:26:14 PM
AALS with UConn. Health law.
Posted by: aspiringprof | Sep 4, 2012 10:00:07 AM
AALS with Toledo, open field.
Posted by: Pessimistic | Sep 4, 2012 10:22:30 AM
Perhaps it'll make people feel better to know that committees make calls in waves. I just got a call from Fla State (no area specified), which was reported to have made some calls at least a week ago.
Also, South Texas for secured transactions, payment systems and consumer law.
Posted by: on the market (again) | Sep 4, 2012 11:22:29 AM
AALS with Suffolk, contracts or property plus health law
Posted by: FARout | Sep 4, 2012 5:20:04 PM
Drexel (IP); Suffolk (Ks)
Posted by: juniorminted | Sep 4, 2012 5:47:29 PM
AALS with Duke
Posted by: CorpReport | Sep 5, 2012 10:55:49 AM
Could you share what general area Loyola LA is calling about (at least based on what you teach?)
Posted by: Tellmemore | Sep 5, 2012 11:22:39 AM
AALS- Suffolk- contracts, property, corp. transactional skills, ADR, employment law
Posted by: VAP | Sep 5, 2012 12:42:00 PM
I hope this question is OK here--wondering if any civ pro/evidence or con law people have gotten calls? I'm sure some have (I have), but I'm wondering how it compares to calls for commercial/transactional--also things like health law, employment law, trusts & estates. Thanks.
Posted by: bacon = the star of the meat market | Sep 5, 2012 1:55:54 PM
AALS interview scheduled yesterday (Sept. 4) with Florida State (unspecified field)
Posted by: Rundel | Sep 5, 2012 2:10:50 PM
Tellmemore: Many areas. They sounded pretty open.
Posted by: anon | Sep 5, 2012 3:09:22 PM
AALS with Illinois
Posted by: CorpReport | Sep 5, 2012 3:23:28 PM
bacon -- the three I've gotten so far (all posted on here) have been in that ballpark.
Posted by: Pessimistic | Sep 5, 2012 3:28:12 PM
Hofstra AALS, admin/health
Posted by: FARout | Sep 5, 2012 6:22:47 PM
Posted by: juniorminted | Sep 5, 2012 8:50:17 PM
AALS with William & Mary
Posted by: anon | Sep 5, 2012 9:10:19 PM
bacon -- I'm a con law person and I have not yet received any calls. My sense is (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong) that the more practical areas get called first, leaving the con law types toward the end -- that is, unless they have impeccable credentials. I'm by no means a superstar -- JD from 15-20 school, no law review or clerkship, but many publications and Ph.D. from top research institution. Congrats on being in the superstar boat. : )
Posted by: borntoprof | Sep 5, 2012 9:17:25 PM
I'm in the same boat; two interviews - got both early last week and nothing since. But... A LOT of schools have yet to make calls so it's early. I'm not going to let myself panic until the end of next week.
Posted by: Tryingtoholdittogether | Sep 6, 2012 8:44:48 AM
Ditto on William and Mary and Pepperdine (no areas specified)
Posted by: Anon | Sep 6, 2012 9:23:16 AM
According to our aggregator, only 37 schools have made any calls so far, about 18.5% of the schools that are out there (granted not all schools are hiring this year, but I bet >90% will hire at least one person. Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that these schools have made all the calls they are going to make (when someone gets a call and the school says they have only one interview slot left, then you know the calls are over, barring a cancellation). The bulk of the calls will be made over the next 16 days, and they will continue to trickle in through late September.
Posted by: beenthere | Sep 6, 2012 9:26:47 AM
New England. Unspecified.
Posted by: one-warm-line | Sep 6, 2012 10:24:50 AM
Also only two interviews so far, and part of me is nervous, but the rational part knows better. As someone who has also been there before, calls will continue through late September, and calls can happen right up to the conference.
Posted by: AnonHuman | Sep 6, 2012 12:22:22 PM
AALS with Brooklyn, multiple areas of interest.
Posted by: anon | Sep 6, 2012 1:15:46 PM
AALS with DePaul
Posted by: Anon | Sep 6, 2012 1:28:10 PM
Denver (AALS)- IBT, commercial law (broadly construed), biz orgs, banking/consumer protection
Posted by: on the market (again) | Sep 6, 2012 1:44:38 PM
Ditto on DePaul
Posted by: anonymouse | Sep 6, 2012 2:29:29 PM
And that would be DePaul for crim
Posted by: anonymouse | Sep 6, 2012 2:29:59 PM
AALS with George Washington
Posted by: CorpReport | Sep 6, 2012 6:17:13 PM
Posted by: still a chance | Sep 6, 2012 6:26:27 PM
@borntoprof--I'm not in the superstar crowd! My username just reflects my respect for the king of all meats.
Posted by: bacon = the star of the meat market | Sep 6, 2012 6:35:32 PM
AALS interviews with Memphis, Toledo and Seattle for Civ Pro, Evidence and Torts. Received the calls last week.
Posted by: anon | Sep 6, 2012 6:36:49 PM
AALS interviews with Missouri and William & Mary scheduled today (both for corporate / securities). Request for information from the University of Southern California.
Posted by: Rundel | Sep 6, 2012 6:41:52 PM
Wisconsin for Civ Pro.
Posted by: Pessimistic | Sep 6, 2012 7:40:46 PM
pre-AALS interviews (not job talks) on campus at Penn and Columbia. Requests for materials from Berkeley, Fordham, and NYU. Areas unspecified in all cases.
Posted by: Profferer | Sep 7, 2012 11:05:10 AM
AALS with Brooklyn.
Posted by: Anoni | Sep 7, 2012 1:06:47 PM
I got calls today from two of the schools other candidates posted yesterday, suggesting maybe they really are contacting people in alphabetical order. (Please note: My last name is not actually Minted.)
Posted by: juniorminted | Sep 7, 2012 3:28:45 PM
AALS with Nova. Subject area unspecified.
Posted by: borntoprof | Sep 7, 2012 3:35:14 PM
Denver, primarily civ pro.
Posted by: Pessimistic | Sep 7, 2012 4:42:48 PM
LSU, primarily civ pro.
Posted by: meatball | Sep 7, 2012 5:12:27 PM
AALS with Illinois (Bloomington) - Contracts & Commercial law.
Posted by: on the market (again) | Sep 7, 2012 8:46:21 PM
SUNY Buffalo AALS. Also AALS with Indiana (bankruptcy and commercial).
Posted by: Anon | Sep 7, 2012 8:50:22 PM
AALS interview scheduled today with the University of Baltimore (corporate /securities). Two pre-AALS screening interviews with local law schools.
Posted by: Rundel | Sep 7, 2012 9:15:31 PM
AALS interviews with Santa Clara, U of Denver (Int'l Bus. Transactions), St. Thomas (Miami); pre-AALS interview with Fordham (unspecified)
Posted by: Prof2b? | Sep 8, 2012 9:04:39 AM
Prof2b? - is the pre-AALS a short interview or a job talk?
Posted by: Anon | Sep 8, 2012 11:53:02 AM
AALS with BC
Posted by: anonyluck | Sep 9, 2012 11:33:11 AM
Born2Prof: By "Nova," do you mean "Villanova" or "Nova Southeastern?" I'm assuming the latter.
Posted by: the aggregator | Sep 9, 2012 1:39:52 PM
on the market (again): Do you mean "Illinois (Urbana-Champaign)" or "Indiana (Bloomington)?" AFAIK, Illinois doesn't have a law school in Bloomington-Normal.
Posted by: the aggregator | Sep 9, 2012 1:41:11 PM
Posted by: on the market (again) | Sep 9, 2012 2:18:48 PM
Has anyone received any calls on weekends?
Posted by: sugar baby | Sep 9, 2012 2:31:51 PM
I have received calls on weekends.
Posted by: anon | Sep 9, 2012 3:12:42 PM
Wyoming and Kansas.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 9, 2012 3:23:21 PM
Posted by: VAP | Sep 9, 2012 4:05:38 PM
Posted by: anon | Sep 9, 2012 7:54:18 PM
Sorry about that the aggregator -- I was referring to Nova Southeastern.
Posted by: borntoprof | Sep 10, 2012 12:26:01 AM
People receiving calls from Boston College - what areas, please?
Posted by: loves Boston | Sep 10, 2012 7:32:06 AM
loves Boston: They didn't say. I assume contracts.
Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2012 8:56:39 AM
Anon, when did you hear from Boston College?
Posted by: Loves boston | Sep 10, 2012 9:16:23 AM
loves Boston: heard from BC over the weekend, didn't specify subject areas
Posted by: anonyluck | Sep 10, 2012 9:58:29 AM
Also heard from BC over the weekend. No area specified.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 10, 2012 11:13:22 AM
Anon and VAP (September 9) -- what areas did Kansas call for and/or what are your areas?
Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2012 11:26:25 AM
Kansas was unspecified (and via email)
Posted by: Anon | Sep 10, 2012 11:28:18 AM
@ Anon 11:26 am- Kansas unspecified as well and also via email. My areas of interest are corp, employment, contracts, torts, civ pro, ADR and professional responsibility. I have heard wonderful things about them but I declined because I now have some geographic limitations that I didn't have when I submitted FAR so there is at least one more slot open.
Posted by: VAP | Sep 10, 2012 2:49:16 PM
VAP -- Your comment about Kansas having at least one more available interview slot suggests that schools invite only a handful of people to interview at AALS. Is this generally the case? I thought schools interviewed many more people at AALS (my guess was around 10). I'm sorry if I missed this information somewhere else, as well as for posting this question on this forum.
Posted by: borntoprof | Sep 10, 2012 5:29:55 PM
borntoprof: My impression is that most schools interview far more than 10 people at AALS (more like 25 or 30). I think that VAP was saying that because he/she didn't accept the interview offered to him/her, there was at least one free thirty-minute slot open in the school's interviewing schedule.
Posted by: AnonVAP | Sep 10, 2012 6:26:55 PM
Thanks AnonVAP for that clarification. I was interpreting VAP's comment in light of the fact that we have record of two other Kansas interviews having been extended. Then, when I noticed that several schools seem to be offering interviews in bunches of threes, I started to wonder whether some schools invite only three people to interview (which would be great news of course for those of us who have interviews so far, but horrible news for the rest). I didn't realize that schools interview as many as 25-30, but I figured it was at least in the double digits. Again, sorry to all for posting this issue on the hiring forum. : )
Posted by: borntoprof | Sep 10, 2012 7:04:23 PM
One more for Kansas
Posted by: FARout | Sep 10, 2012 8:05:33 PM
Woohoo! (Inside joke.)
Posted by: Pessimistic | Sep 10, 2012 9:02:44 PM
Missouri, Mississippi, NYLS, Brooklyn-- all IP. Most of those schools are listed above but for other (or unspecified) areas.
Posted by: juniorminted | Sep 10, 2012 10:35:36 PM
@Anon -- the pre-AALS interview with Fordham is a short interview.
Posted by: Prof2b? | Sep 11, 2012 12:24:50 AM
Anyone heard from Hastings other than a ding to a targeted packaged?
Posted by: irreligiousanon | Sep 11, 2012 11:37:27 AM
@juniorminted: Is the "University of Mississippi" or "Mississippi College?" I'm assuming the former.
Posted by: l'aggregatore | Sep 11, 2012 12:27:56 PM
NY days interview with NY Law, AALS with Memphis, Seattle, and Loyola-LA (all came in a week and a half ago and nothing since)
Posted by: anon2 | Sep 11, 2012 12:50:43 PM
U of Mississippi.
Posted by: juniorminted | Sep 11, 2012 1:14:36 PM
FYI re Kansas - the bulletin says they are looking for commercial/IP/energy, but none of those are my areas.
Aggregator - my Temple interview is for health and my St. Thomas interview (health/civ pro) is with the one in Florida. Also, my Kansas interview came in on 9/9 (along with the other ones... I'm assuming we all got the same email).
Posted by: FARout | Sep 11, 2012 2:56:54 PM
@borntoprof- yes, AnonVAP is right. I meant since I wasn't taking up a slot there was at least one more open slot. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted by: VAP | Sep 11, 2012 3:39:15 PM
Has anyone else found that the past week or so has been particularly quiet?
Posted by: anoni | Sep 12, 2012 1:41:29 PM
AALS with Cardozo and Univ. of Houston
Posted by: CorpReport | Sep 12, 2012 3:31:51 PM
Has anyone heard anything about University of Houston? Has anyone gotten a call from them?
Posted by: ccarts | Sep 12, 2012 4:24:08 PM
Yes, past 3 days have been quite quiet
Posted by: anonyluck | Sep 12, 2012 4:29:29 PM
Yes, Houston made calls a couple of weeks ago (at least in my case).
Posted by: Anon | Sep 12, 2012 4:58:46 PM
American (don't know which area).
Posted by: meatball | Sep 12, 2012 5:07:06 PM
I haven't heard anything new in a week.
Posted by: alternaprof | Sep 12, 2012 5:41:10 PM
Meatball: When did American contact you?
Posted by: anoni | Sep 12, 2012 6:22:20 PM
University of Tennessee, torts/evidence/civ pro
Posted by: FARnonymous | Sep 12, 2012 6:32:36 PM
Nova Southeastern AALS - Property and Intellectual Property
Posted by: Kingsfield | Sep 12, 2012 9:10:58 PM
been super quiet since a 3 interview offer weekend around memorial day.
Posted by: on the market (again) | Sep 12, 2012 9:56:54 PM
@anoni: earlier today.
Posted by: meatball | Sep 12, 2012 11:02:07 PM
Seattle, Toledo, Thomas Jefferson, Kansas, UT (KNoxville), New York Law School, California Western, Memphis for civpro/evidence/torts/unspecified.
Posted by: ccart | Sep 12, 2012 11:40:29 PM
SIU Law School, environmental/natural resources, possibly admin.
Posted by: anon | Sep 13, 2012 10:39:00 AM
An AALS interview scheduled yesterday with Seattle (corporate / debtor-creditor law / securities).
Posted by: Rundel | Sep 13, 2012 11:24:37 AM
AALS interview @ Peking University School of Transnational Law (unspecified)
Posted by: little orphan annie | Sep 13, 2012 11:40:34 AM
AALS with Whittier, request for info from Harvard
Posted by: CorpReport | Sep 13, 2012 3:45:16 PM
Informally told I was a poor fit at BC, despite offering commercial law and contracts. Hrmph.
Posted by: on the market (again) | Sep 13, 2012 4:34:50 PM
Has anyone heard from Oklahoma, Arizona State, or W&L?
Posted by: Greendale Human Being | Sep 13, 2012 5:52:28 PM
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