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Tuesday, October 26, 2010
Law School Hiring Thread, 2010-11, Thread Two
This thread is now closed. Please post comments on Thread Three.
This thread is for both law professors and people who are on the market this coming year for becoming a law professor. We invite those on the market and those who are prawfs to leave comments (anonymously if they prefer) regarding:
a) whether they have received a first round interview at a school, and if the school mentioned the areas they were looking into, and whether the interview offer was accepted
b) a callback from a law school and/or accepted it and
c) whether they have received an offer from a law school and/or accepted it; feel free to also leave details about the offer or info about teaching loads, research leaves, etc. Please note that a school listed as "offer accepted" may have made more than one offer, and may still have some of those slots open. The aggregator will try to keep track of these (to the extent people let the aggregator know) in the spreadsheet below.
Law professors may also choose to provide information that is relevant to the entry-level or the lateral market. Bear in mind: if you don't want your contact information displayed, please just enter in anon@anon.edu or something like that as an email address.
We now have an aggregator. All information should come in through the comments. Our aggregator will to use a spreadsheet to aggregate the information. Only the aggregator will be able to edit the spreadsheet, but when the aggregator edits the spreadsheet, those changes will be reflected in the embedded version below.
Please be patient with the aggregator, who will try to update this spreadsheet once a day, but may have a job, and perhaps may even be on the market.
Additional Links:
Use "a clearinghouse for questions" at this link for general questions about the market, not the thread below.
Check out the cache of materials relevant to your job search under our archive category Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market, including a link to last year's clearinghouse for questions.
This year's first hiring thread, where comments are now closed, is available here.
Posted by Dan Markel on October 26, 2010 at 10:00 PM in Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market | Permalink
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FYI, the link to the clearinghouse for questions thread is broken. Thanks to Dan and to our noble aggregator!
Posted by: anon | Sep 16, 2010 7:58:35 PM
Sorry-links fixed!
Posted by: Admin | Sep 16, 2010 8:06:49 PM
Chicago Kent and Loyola Chicago are not hiring entry level this year.
Posted by: anonymouse | Sep 16, 2010 10:49:37 PM
Oklahoma
Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2010 1:25:10 PM
Creighton, West Virginia. Both looking for tax professor.
Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2010 5:08:16 PM
What are examples of inaccurate info. on this blog-thread? This is a godsend to me! Leiter is just jealous.
Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2010 5:16:17 PM
This week: UMKC, Fla Int'l, New England, American, Fla Coastal, Syracuse, Washington.
Posted by: greenymous | Sep 17, 2010 8:22:20 PM
anon 7.25;
When did you receive the last response (i.e. ""it is unlikely that we will do any hiring at the entry-level this year. Nevertheless, I am retaining the materials and will certainly keep you in mind if our needs change over the course of the year."). I have received the same response (word for word) from a school so I was wondering if their policy is still the same (or at least until which known date they had this policy).
Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2010 8:48:13 PM
Greenymous, would you mind saying what you're being considered to teach at Syracuse? Is it tax?
Posted by: Tia | Sep 17, 2010 9:12:37 PM
Anon 8:48. I received the letter last week after I had sent a direct letter to them. I'm guessing it was a form letter that they've been sending to most/all entry level candidates.
Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2010 10:05:05 PM
Greenymous, which of the various "Washington" schools are you referring to? UW, WUiSL, etc.
Posted by: ? | Sep 17, 2010 10:17:48 PM
Tia: Syracuse- enviro/reg law
?: Washington=UW
Posted by: greenymous | Sep 18, 2010 9:35:56 AM
has anyone heard *anything* from GWU, whether it be even a request for further information?
Posted by: anon | Sep 18, 2010 5:11:31 PM
GWU is still reeling from the ranking of night-programs; my guess is no hiring for a while. They cut way back on the night-slots = huge financial retrenchment.
Posted by: AnonYMouse | Sep 18, 2010 9:00:46 PM
To the Law Professor and other people whose comments were deleted: my guess is that you were removed because that discussion on the "value" of this thread has already been ventilated several times on earlier threads in previous years; there's not much need to continually rehash those tired conversations especially on this thread when you're so obviously late to the party. Indeed, Markel or the other Admin folks will simply (and should simply) delete this comment too. No more "meta" is the operating rule here, right?
Posted by: anon1 | Sep 19, 2010 12:22:52 AM
I think meta is welcomed on the Clearinghouse for Questions thread, but this thread is dedicated to comments that are strictly on-topic.
(This comment will self-destruct.)
Posted by: Tia | Sep 19, 2010 12:44:31 PM
I can confirm i received a first round interview at GW, however i was not expecting it as i had understood from the grapevine that they were not hiring. whether or not this means they are actually hiring in earnest this year is anyone's guess.
Posted by: anon | Sep 19, 2010 4:10:12 PM
Anon 4:10- re:GW
Just curious... what subject area/courses, if any, did GW say it was interested in having you cover? Are you local?
Posted by: anon | Sep 19, 2010 5:43:58 PM
St. John's
Posted by: anon | Sep 19, 2010 8:19:59 PM
UNLV, Seattle
Posted by: anon | Sep 20, 2010 2:53:53 PM
New England, civil procedure
Posted by: anonimation | Sep 20, 2010 6:29:31 PM
Has anyone heard from USC or UCLA, or know in what areas they might be looking? Thanks!
Posted by: angelino | Sep 20, 2010 7:08:33 PM
to anon5:43: they didn't say, but i am more or less a contracts/private int'l law person. i'm not local.
Posted by: anon | Sep 20, 2010 7:11:02 PM
I got a request for more info from UCLA about a month ago now but haven't heard anything since.
Posted by: anonymouse | Sep 20, 2010 7:31:30 PM
Re USC -- I got a call for a first round interview a few weeks ago. No subject specified.
Posted by: anon | Sep 21, 2010 3:49:08 AM
Request for more info from a Top 10 school.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 21, 2010 10:04:34 AM
UCLA has started scheduling interviews.
Posted by: anon | Sep 21, 2010 10:36:49 AM
Oregon.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 21, 2010 11:43:59 AM
Anon at 11:43, Oregon's curricular needs were so wide. Do you mind sharing your general teaching area?
Posted by: PacNWer | Sep 21, 2010 11:55:39 AM
Heard from a school first reported to call three weeks ago. So there's hope for more!
Posted by: anon | Sep 21, 2010 1:12:44 PM
anon @ 1:12 -- will you ID the school please?
Posted by: Anon-oly | Sep 21, 2010 1:59:18 PM
Oklahoma City
Posted by: anon5 | Sep 21, 2010 7:56:43 PM
Calls for interviews from Nebraska and Cincinnati two weeks ago; calls for interviews from Charlotte Law, Alabama, and New England Law last week. And an inquiry from Pepperdine last week.
Posted by: The waiting game | Sep 21, 2010 11:29:49 PM
Call with school first reported a couple weeks ago. I know this provides little information, but perhaps this helps keep hope alive for those (like me) who thought they were passed over by a particular school.
Posted by: anon5 | Sep 22, 2010 12:07:37 AM
Is Pepperdine contacting people my snail mail or email?
Posted by: anon | Sep 22, 2010 8:51:49 AM
Civ Pro waiting game? That seems a common thread to Cincy, Charlotte, Alabama and New England.
Posted by: Anon-oly | Sep 22, 2010 9:57:23 AM
Why is it that people are so skittish about identifying the school that has called? Disclosing only "a school listed on here a couple of weeks ago..."? Is there some kind of paranoia that members of the committee will be reading this blog, and put 2 and 2 together as to who it is that has disclosed the vital secret? That it would be a black mark against you going forward in the process?
This is a clearing house for information, in an attempt to make the market more efficient. There is no reason to believe that any school would be adverse to having the information as to when they called, or how many people they called, disclosed on here. So stop being so damned paranoid, and share the information people.
Posted by: anon99 | Sep 22, 2010 10:13:15 AM
Anybody have any information on Minnesota's timeline wrt the skype interviews it did, callbacks, etc?
Posted by: anonaMinn | Sep 22, 2010 1:35:07 PM
My friend has received a Minn. callback.
Posted by: anon | Sep 22, 2010 1:46:09 PM
Suffolk
Posted by: anon | Sep 22, 2010 2:23:56 PM
Can someone who has been contacted by UCLA share what areas they are hiring for this year?
Posted by: anon | Sep 22, 2010 4:38:10 PM
I saw Denver listed earlier for International Business, I think. Has anyone else been contacted for an interview? I think they were looking for Natural Resources Law, too...
Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2010 9:38:15 AM
UCLA: They didn't say; I assume "best available athlete." Ditto USC.
Posted by: anonUCLA | Sep 23, 2010 11:03:07 AM
Re: Suffolk. Did they mention any courses?
Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2010 5:58:10 PM
Re: Suffolk, contracts, property
Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2010 6:06:32 PM
Do people have the sense that things were quite slow this past week, or is it just me? :(
To the lucky anonUCLA: are you presently located in the LA area?
Posted by: strangelove | Sep 23, 2010 11:04:40 PM
Things were slow for me this week as well, after getting 17 interviews in the first 3 weeks. My impression is that the top 20 or schools are going to start calling in the next few weeks, but the rest of the schools are only calling to fill in droupouts. So, unless your scholarship is totally useless (in which case the T20 schools will love you) or you have never practiced law a day in your law (in which case they will love you even more), I would begin focusing on interview prep.
If you really want to work at a T20 faculty, make sure that your scholarship is geared toward english, economics, or political science professors. If even 10% of the footnotes in your ppaper cite statutes or regulations or cases or anything else that your future students might interested in, you have a very serious problem.
Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2010 12:26:45 AM
Strangelove: No. Things were slow this week, I agree. I heard from a couple of places (reported on this blog), and friends heard from AU and Cardozo.
Posted by: anonUCLA | Sep 24, 2010 3:38:04 AM
Things were slow but there are still some non T20 schools that don't seem to have made any calls - Vermont, Seton Hall - and probably others...
Posted by: seeker | Sep 24, 2010 11:53:23 AM
Roger Williams
Posted by: seeker | Sep 24, 2010 4:40:21 PM
Seeker: did RW tell you their curricular needs?
Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2010 4:54:18 PM
Indiana-Bloomington (no subject specified)
Posted by: Ana Espinosa | Sep 24, 2010 5:22:27 PM
no, but property is my field
Posted by: seeker | Sep 24, 2010 5:23:00 PM
Harvard
Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2010 9:49:43 PM
In the last 10 days or so: Indiana-Bloom., Cardozo, Fordham and St. John's. All in private law. Only one of those is mine.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 24, 2010 9:53:20 PM
callback @ Duke
Posted by: anonYMouse | Sep 25, 2010 2:27:10 PM
"Callback" from Duke as in you've already had your interview and they have asked you to come back for a job talk? Or "callback" as in they have invited you to interview?
Posted by: anonanonwego | Sep 26, 2010 8:17:43 PM
"callback" = invite to campus for full day + job-talk
Posted by: anonYMouse | Sep 27, 2010 2:28:01 PM
Any word on Vermont or John Marshall? Both were in the bulletin as hiring, yet have heard of no calls
Posted by: anon | Sep 27, 2010 5:42:00 PM
Northern Illinois (trusts & estates)
Posted by: anon | Sep 27, 2010 8:55:53 PM
anonYMouse - congrats!
Posted by: johnny sack | Sep 27, 2010 10:42:14 PM
I recall when I did the meat market in like 97 I ended up with 19 interviews many came in October. I have 6 now. I'm less marketable now, though, probably, so who knows. I just finished my job talk. I've done this before (had a tenure-track position) and am now in private practice. I'd be happy to answer any questions. The process is pretty hard to predict. Best way to approach it is to be yourself and talk about your work in a succinct, but intense way. Oh, I don't check this thing that often. Also, i'm a tax person with a penchant for continental philosophy (that can cut many ways!).
Posted by: Anon | Sep 28, 2010 12:41:24 AM
"i'm a tax person with a penchant for continental philosophy (that can cut many ways!)."
like a tax cut?
sorry, it's late.
Posted by: anon | Sep 28, 2010 12:44:46 AM
Michigan
Posted by: anon | Sep 28, 2010 5:40:35 AM
if a school isn't listed this late in the game, I think it's safe to assume that they have made calls and just no one has reported them.
Posted by: anon the nona of anonapolis | Sep 28, 2010 3:06:02 PM
John Marshall
Posted by: anon | Sep 28, 2010 3:30:35 PM
@ 3:06--or, more ominously, not hiring
Posted by: anon | Sep 28, 2010 4:20:30 PM
Colorado
Posted by: anon | Sep 28, 2010 4:46:08 PM
Re: Colorado. Subject area?
Posted by: anon | Sep 28, 2010 5:17:04 PM
Hamline, Florida Coastal
Posted by: hot/cold | Sep 28, 2010 6:08:49 PM
Columbia
Posted by: anon | Sep 28, 2010 6:15:52 PM
Has anyone heard from Stanford? I know they've requested materials from at least 3 people. But no word on interviews.
Posted by: Ana Espinosa | Sep 29, 2010 12:43:35 PM
Has anyone scheduled an interview with Berkeley?
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2010 2:03:32 PM
Whittier
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2010 2:04:24 PM
I heard berkeley was mainly looking for crim this year.
Posted by: grapevine | Sep 29, 2010 2:15:52 PM
fwiw berkeley asked for more info a few weeks ago and i've heard bupkis. i had kinda assumed they just went elsewhere.
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2010 4:46:15 PM
Same here.
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2010 5:23:43 PM
I heard Pepperdine interviews are out
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2010 7:16:45 PM
it's still early. most top 10 schools just started deliberation
Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2010 11:32:11 PM
Confirm that Pepperdine interviews are out.
Posted by: anon | Sep 30, 2010 1:00:05 PM
Richmond
Posted by: anon | Sep 30, 2010 10:01:13 PM
Heard from Berkeley (crim)
Posted by: anon | Oct 1, 2010 11:37:10 AM
Anyone heard back from UVA?
Posted by: anon | Oct 1, 2010 11:38:15 AM
How about UGA?
Posted by: uga-anon | Oct 1, 2010 12:11:35 PM
Anyone heard from Stanford?
Posted by: strike2.9 | Oct 1, 2010 12:12:26 PM
Got a request for more info from Virginia but haven't heard anything since.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 1, 2010 12:14:28 PM
Phone interview with Charlotte Law School. Doesn't sound like they are going to DC but rather doing phone and then call backs. Areas: contracts, advanced tax courses.
Posted by: Anon | Oct 1, 2010 12:32:02 PM
I'm new at this game, so perhaps this is my ignorance coming through, but what do people make of schools being listed for the first time in the AALS Job Bulletin that came out today? For example, I see right off the bat that Albany Law and UC Davis are listed this time, but never appeared before. Are these new schools still looking for applicants/interviews?
Posted by: anonimation | Oct 1, 2010 1:31:09 PM
To anonimation at 1:31:09:
Not true. Davis' posting has been there since the first bulletin. Albany's listing, however, is new for a clinical position.
Posted by: anomitron | Oct 1, 2010 2:53:36 PM
To follow up: My guess is that Davis' interviews are full. Their listing has been posted on the first, second, and third placement bulletins, and they have been calling candidates since August. Albany's listing is new, so they may have just figured out just before the deadline for submitting their posting that they need a clinical position filled.
Posted by: anomitron | Oct 1, 2010 3:10:38 PM
Wash U. and Hamline. Wasn't told areas.
Posted by: monthcountdown | Oct 1, 2010 4:44:44 PM
Thanks.
Posted by: anonimation | Oct 1, 2010 4:50:33 PM
ave maria, tax
Posted by: anon | Oct 1, 2010 5:11:43 PM
FSU has made its first small cluster of offers to rookie and lateral candidates. It is only the first batch of offers and we are looking at many more lateral and rookies over the coming months.
Posted by: FSU Prof | Oct 1, 2010 5:16:10 PM
Anyone know if Northeastern is hiring (and interviewing) this year?
Posted by: AnoN | Oct 1, 2010 10:10:40 PM
Yonsei (Korea)
Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2010 9:55:42 AM
Anyone heard from Vermont yet, or U. San Francisco - is USF hiring tenure track? In the bulletin they advertised visiting positions...
Posted by: anonymouse | Oct 2, 2010 12:23:39 PM
A friend heard from USF for a visiting position. So I don't think they are considering tenure track candidates this year.
Posted by: Anonilicious | Oct 2, 2010 2:03:47 PM
Which subject area(s) at Yonsei?
Posted by: anon | Oct 3, 2010 11:04:57 AM
Yonsei = Anglo-American law
Posted by: anon | Oct 4, 2010 3:24:21 PM
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