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Monday, September 29, 2008
Email I Just Sent Raul Grijalva's Campaign Manager
Hi Michelle
I just called the main campaign number and was told I should contact you by email. I made a donation to Congressman Grijalva's campaign earlier this year, at a house party. I believe it was $50, though perhaps it was $100.
After hearing that Congressman Grijalva voted against the bailout, I would like my money back. This was a time to make a courageous vote, one that was in the best interests of the Congressman's constituents even if many didn't realize it. If a member from a safe district like yours can't be counted on to show leadership and do the right thing, it's no wonder that someone like Giffords (my rep, for whom I will now not vote) wouldn't. The stakes are way too high for this stuff.
Please return my contribution to the following address:
[REDACTED]
Please also take me off your mailing list, as I won't be interested in supporting Congressman Grijalva in the future.
Sincerely,
Jonah B. Gelbach
Update: Here's my response to Orin Kerr's comment below (for some reason I can't get this comment to stick, so I'm using an update).
If the merits were obvious and widely accepted, then I don't think it would be particularly courageous to vote yes. The problem is precisely that they aren't.
That said, almost every economist I read and/or talk to thinks this bill was above the bar (the one I've talked to who doesn't knows who he is), and that the alternative of doing nothing is too bad to consider seriously. Of course, if you think the alternative to this bill is likely to be another, better one, then that's a different story. But my strong prior is that that scenario is wishful thinking: I fear we will get either nothing or something worse. I hope I'm wrong.
As to whether "the vote carries a sort of moral judgment rather than a mere personal disagreement," I think the best I can say is to echo Fed Vice Chair Donald Kohn, as paraphrased here:
it is bad public policy to hold the jobs of tens of millions hostage in an attempt to teach a few feckless financiers (or even somewhat more thriftless borrowers) even a much-deserved lesson.
Personally I think rolling the dice on the medium-run economic well-being of millions of people does rise to the level of moral judgment. I read a bunch of stuff on the Great Depression this summer, mostly by Ben Bernanke (it's not that widely known, but BB is a leading GD scholar). One of the things that jumps out at you is just how stupid the policymakers of the time were. And we don't even have their excuses: we know about the GD, and we know about Keynes, and we know how to avoid the disaster (or at least how best to try).
Finally, I will suggest some sites for good info about the economics of what's going on. In no particular order:
1. This column by Bruce Barlett, former Reagan and Bush/41 economist.
2. Andrew Samwick. Dartmouth econ prof, former economist at CEA under Bush/43, and a super-respected guy.
3. Paul Krugman's blog. Yes, I know Krugman is anathema to anyone who is not a political liberal. But whatever you think of his political ideas and columns, he is a giant of modern macro and knows this stuff cold.
4. Brad DeLong's blog. Ditto everything I just wrote about Krugman. If it bothers you, ignore the political stuff and just read the economics, which is extremely thorough and well-written
5. Felix Salmon
Posted by Jonah Gelbach on September 29, 2008 at 04:13 PM in Current Affairs | Permalink
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Will you post the campaign's response, if there is one?
Posted by: Adam Richardson | Sep 29, 2008 6:50:43 PM
Adam
To my surprise, Michelle (who is Congressman Grijalva's campaign manager), did respond.
I don't think it would be appropriate for me to characterize in any detail what she wrote, at least not without her permission.
But I will say that
a. They're going to refund my contribution (which I still want them to do -- I've told them I will donate to a food bank if no bill passes, and to a courageous House member if one does), and
b. Her reply was very thoughtful
I'll think over whether I ought to write more.
Posted by: jonah gelbach | Sep 29, 2008 6:57:52 PM
Do other campaigns give back donations if you decide that you no longer like the candidate? I've never heard of that.
Posted by: Orin Kerr | Sep 29, 2008 9:36:45 PM
Oh, and I'm very curious about the use of the word "courageous" here. Minds are sharply divided on the merits of the bailout. How is a vote for the plan by a Congressman with a safe seat "courageous"? Is the assumption that he really thinks the bill is good?
Posted by: Orin Kerr | Sep 29, 2008 9:40:12 PM
Orin
I didn't mean to suggest that a vote for the bill by someone with a *safe* seat was courageous. Rather, I meaant to suggest in my email to Grijalva's campaign manager that HIS vote was cowardly, given how safe his seat is.
To my mind, Jim Marshall's yea vote was courageous. Here's what today's WaPo said about him:
Meanwhile, Democrats meeting nearby in the basement of the Capitol also heard a rallying cry from their leaders, who won support from some surprising corners. Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.), who represents a conservative-leaning district and is a frequent GOP target, told his colleagues that passing the legislation is more important than winning re-election.
"I am willing to give up my seat over this," Marshall said, according to one attendee.
That's the guy I'll send my hunnert bucks to.
Posted by: jonah gelbach | Sep 29, 2008 9:50:18 PM
Ok, I see why you thought I suggested voting for the bill would have been courageous by Grijalva: "This was a time to make a courageous vote, one that was in the best interests of the Congressman's constituents even if many didn't realize it."
Fair enough. My main point was actually about Giffords's voting no (she's in a tough race), and the fact that Grijalva's refusal to vote yes sets a terrible example.
I wrote that email in some haste, and no small amount of anger. I'd reword it if I could.
Jonah
Posted by: jonah gelbach | Sep 29, 2008 9:58:39 PM
Jonah,
Thanks for the response. I guess my question is whether the merits of the bill are so obvious and widely accepted that someone who votes against it is somehow being weak or cowardly. I realize from your post that you are absolutely convinced that the bill have passed. In fact, looking around the blogosphere, you appear to be more certain about this than any one I have read. I supposed I'm asking whether that view is so widely shared such that the vote carries a sort of moral judgment rather than a mere personal disagreement.
Posted by: Orin Kerr | Sep 29, 2008 10:29:06 PM
(oh, and pardon my typos -- typing too fast)
Posted by: Orin Kerr | Sep 29, 2008 10:30:09 PM
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