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Monday, September 22, 2008

A law school hiring thread: 2008-09

NB: Moved to the front and updated after the jump.

This thread is for both law professors and people who are on the market this year to become a law professor. We invite those on the market to leave comments (anonymously if they prefer) regarding a range of things:

a) whether they have received a call from a particular school inviting them to an interview at the AALS meat market, and/or whether they accepted it; also whether the school has asked for a candidate's scholarship yet

b) whether they have received a callback from a law school and/or accepted it

c)  whether they have received an offer from a law school and/or accepted it; feel free to also leave details about the offer or info about teaching loads, research leaves, etc.

Law professors may also choose to provide information that is relevant to the entry-level or the lateral market.

Bear in mind: if you don't want your contact information displayed, please just enter in anon@anon.edu or something like that as an email address.

Update: This post will be moved to the front of the blog once every ten days or so, and we will also try to provide updates in the comments that consolidate the various bits of information here. If you are looking for links on how to manage going through the job hunt, check out the posts under these three archives: here, here, and here.

To get things started: FSU has invited a substantial number of entry and lateral candidates to FSU this fall. The school has also extended a large number of invitations to AALS.

After the jump: a summary that will be revised every few days.

Schools new to the list are asterisked. As of 10/6:

Akron
Albany
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
Barry
Baylor
Boston College
Boston University
Brooklyn
California-Berkeley
California-Davis
California-Hastings
California Western
Campbell
Capital
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
Chicago
Chicago-Kent
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
Colorado
Columbia
Cornell
Creighton
CUNY
Denver
Duke
Drexel
Florida
Florida Coastal
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
Georgetown
George Washington
Georgia
Georgia State
Golden Gate
Hamline
Hofstra
Houston
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana Bloomington
* Indiana Indianapolis
Iowa
John Marshall
Kentucky
La Verne
Lewis and Clark
Louisville
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
Loyola New Orleans
LSU
Maine
Maryland
* Memphis
Miami
Michigan State
Minnesota
Mississippi College of Law
Nebraska
New England School of Law
New York Law School
North Carolina
Northern Illinois
Northern Kentucky
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma City University College of Law
Oregon
Pace
* Pacific
Penn State
Pennsylvania
Pepperdine
Pittsburgh
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seattle
Seton Hall
SMU
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
South Texas
Southwestern
Stanford
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
* Syracuse
Temple
Texas
Thomas Jefferson
Toledo
Toronto
* Tulane
UC Irvine
* UCLA
U. Conn.
USC
Utah
Villanova
Virginia
Wake Forest
Washington University
Wayne State
Western New England
West Virginia
Widener
William & Mary
William Mitchell
Wyoming
Yale

Please correct mistakes.

Posted by Dan Markel on September 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM in Getting a Job on the Law Teaching Market, Life of Law Schools, Teaching Law | Permalink

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(a) Calls for interviews (AALS or on-campus): Stetson, Southern Illinois, St. John's, St. Thomas (MN), FSU, Notre Dame, LSU, Villanova, La Verne, South Carolina, U. Baltimore, John Marshall.

(b) Call-backs: At at least one of the schools listed above (accepted).

(c) Offers: none.

Thanks for doing this.

Posted by: On the market | Sep 8, 2008 11:26:32 AM

Calls for interviews at the FRC from the following schools so far:

UIUC, Roger Williams, SUNY Buffalo, Case Western Reserve, Charleston, Cornell, Quinnipiac, Univ. of Akron, Thomas Jefferson, Univ. of Richmond, Brooklyn, Drexel.

Posted by: aspiring_prawf | Sep 8, 2008 11:31:57 AM

Interviews at AALS or on-campus: Temple, Brooklyn, SUNY Buffalo, U. Baltimore, Roger Williams, South Carolina

This thread is a great idea -- thank you!

Posted by: entry level candidate | Sep 8, 2008 1:06:51 PM

In an effort to stem the sense of dread and panic that may accompany these lists, just let me say that a school listed here may not be done with its calls to potential candidates. In fact, some schools may be proceeding through their lists in such a way that those who are called later are definitely not on a "B" list.

Posted by: Matt Bodie | Sep 8, 2008 1:11:56 PM

I am still early in my career and trying to "break into" academia.

Last year, AALS was not productive for me, so I am not using the service or attending the conference this year. I am, instead, contacting schools individually that I am eager to work with. I anticipate that a more targeted, sincere inquiry may attract attention somewhere. I have just started submitting my materials so have not heard anything back.

Thank you for this. I kept an eye on your hiring thread last year and found it very informative.

Posted by: Kimberly Alderman | Sep 8, 2008 1:52:58 PM

On-campus or AALS interview with Illinois and Seton Hall

Posted by: another candidate | Sep 8, 2008 3:34:22 PM

American has begun calling folks for AALS and/or on-campus interviews, but we've only just begun (isn't there a song that goes like that?).

Posted by: Steve Vladeck | Sep 8, 2008 3:45:40 PM

Calls (date of first contact in parens) for FRC or preliminary on-campus interviews: Loyola Chicago (8/19), FSU (8/24), Temple (8/29), Quinnipiac (9/2), Cornell (9/3; N.B., as of that date, it sounded like their FRC schedule was already quite full), Cleveland-Marshall (9/5), Brooklyn (9/8), Cardozo (9/8).

Posted by: On the Market | Sep 8, 2008 4:01:59 PM

FIU will not be doing any hiring this year.

Posted by: Howard Wasserman | Sep 8, 2008 4:28:13 PM

Following-up on a comment in a previous post, I found the information on the Greedy Clerks site from the 2006 season very informative. Go to http://www.infirmation.com/bboard/clubs.tcl?topic=Greedy%20Clerks and search "AALS". People emailed-in who had called them and when. Looks like the top of the calling bell-curve was in mid-September, so for those of you with only a call or two so far (like me!) there's still hope.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 8, 2008 4:45:18 PM

I want to echo Matt Bodie's point, above. The fact that a school has scheduled an interview with some people does not mean they are finished scheduling such interviews.

As per usual, when I go through the FAR, I am blown away by people's achievements and thank God I got into the legal academy when I did.

Posted by: Rick Garnett | Sep 8, 2008 5:22:26 PM

Looks like the usual suspects based on the above lists

In order of calls received: UIUC, SUNY-Buffalo, Case Western, Roger Williams, Cornell, Western New England, Santa Clara, ASU

At least one will be a pre-AALS interview

Posted by: Aspiring Law Prof | Sep 9, 2008 12:59:01 AM

I'm surprised that schools are setting up interviews this early; when I was on the market, I got most of my interviews late Sept/early Oct.

Posted by: Mike | Sep 9, 2008 1:10:42 AM

Conference interview with some of the schools already listed as well as Washington University (St. Louis).

Posted by: also on the market | Sep 9, 2008 9:08:18 AM

One pre-conference interview, one conference interview, but scared shitless by some of the comments here, even with some of the other reassuring ones.

Posted by: OTM Extreme | Sep 9, 2008 10:17:20 AM

Capital has not yet begun to call candidates and we will be interviewing at the AALS.

Posted by: mark strasser | Sep 9, 2008 11:29:17 AM

I understand the belief that more information is always better than less, but I am quite sure that if this sort of information had been publicly available 16 years ago when I was struggling to find an entry-level position, it made have made me mildly suicidal.

Posted by: Eric Muller | Sep 9, 2008 12:06:55 PM

I have to second Eric here. While I probably would have wanted this information as a candidate, I'm not sure in what way this information is helpful. If you want an interview at school x and find out that school x has made some calls, how does this information help you? Similarly, how does knowing the interview list of other (albeit anonymous) candidates provide any assistance? Of course, if you think this information is more harmful than helpful, you can always choose not to look, but I suspect the temptation factor is pretty high.

Posted by: Lesley Wexler | Sep 9, 2008 1:23:57 PM

Eric, Lesley, and others: I'm sure there are conflicting assessments of whether people will find this helpful, but for the rest of this thread and the other ones we will post on this subject in the future, let me ask you to weigh in on the meta-merits of such a thread elsewhere: http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/09/a-law-school-hi.html

FWIW, I have received a number of requests for such information. I also think it's as useful to those on the law hiring market as it is for those on the clerkship market; whether to hold spaces on one's dance card or to forbear accepting a job somewhere because one is hoping to find out from another place--these are decisions that are marginally improved by sharing such information.

Posted by: Dan Markel | Sep 9, 2008 1:38:40 PM

You can add Michigan State, Penn State and Wyoming to the list of schools that have already made at least some interview calls.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 9, 2008 1:57:49 PM

Also add University of Kentucky, beginning at least on 8/22/08.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 9, 2008 2:44:35 PM

Question - Did people register for the conference in addition to submitting their forms? I just saw that.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 9, 2008 2:50:23 PM

Add George Mason, University of Maine, Chapman and Loyola-LA to the list.

All this leaves me with the burning question: What should one do upon learning that a person's top schools has already scheduled interviews but not with you? Appropriate to ask your recommenders to call for you? If you haven't done so already, would you send them a target packet (or whatever we decided the appropriate term was)?

Posted by: Anon | Sep 9, 2008 2:53:01 PM

Cincinnati has made FRC interview offers as well.

Posted by: another candidate | Sep 9, 2008 3:39:12 PM

Fordham started calling, too.

Posted by: aspiring_prawf | Sep 9, 2008 4:55:39 PM

Lets see, people I've heard from that I don't think are on the list yet: U. of Minnesota, Boston U., William & Mary, U. of Arizona, Wake Forest, Arizona State, Georgia State, U. San Diego, St. Louis, and Hofstra.

For people who are still waiting to hear, more interview slots will free up as people cancel interviews that were made early in the process.

Posted by: anon | Sep 9, 2008 10:56:05 PM

i'm a faculty member at a top 20 school, and we haven't made a single call yet. I'm sure we're not alone. Don't panic, people!

Posted by: top 20 faculty member | Sep 10, 2008 1:19:44 AM

Thought it might be helpful to consolidate the information we've got so far. Please bear in mind the comments of the law professors on this thread both that (1) the fact that a school is on this list does not mean that the school has finished making its calls; and (2) many schools have not yet begun (or "have only just begun") making calls.

Akron
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
Boston University
Brooklyn
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
Cornell
Drexel
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
Georgia State
Hofstra
Illinois
John Marshall
Kentucky
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
LSU
Maine
Michigan State
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Penn State
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
Villanova
Wake Forest
Washington University
Western New England
William & Mary
Wyoming

Scroll up for information about when the school began calling folks who've contributed to this thread.

Please correct anything I've mistakenly omitted or included.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Sep 10, 2008 7:21:10 AM

Add La Verne.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Sep 10, 2008 7:42:46 AM

Add Toledo, Maryland, and Lewis and Clark.

Many thanks again to all contributors - hopefully we can keep this thread going post-AALS once callbacks/offers/letters of rejection start rolling in.

Posted by: On the Market | Sep 10, 2008 9:51:04 AM

Add Wayne State & University of Colorado

Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2008 1:36:28 PM

USC is calling for FRC interviews.

Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2008 3:36:08 PM

U. Conn. also calling.

Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2008 4:50:48 PM

Miami.

Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2008 5:18:07 PM

U. of Utah and George Washington

Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2008 7:01:24 PM

UC Irvine

Posted by: anon | Sep 11, 2008 1:28:47 AM

Here's a second condolidation. I've asterisked the new schools listed since the first consolidation, but this doesn't mean that they are necessarily later callers (commenters might only recently have gotten around to seeing this thread or may only recently decided to contribute). It only means that it's information coming to this thread later than the other information. Also, please keep in mind several law professors's comments that any school on this list may not be finished or may have only started.

Akron
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
Boston University
Brooklyn
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
* Colorado
Cornell
Drexel
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
* George Washington
Georgia State
Hofstra
Illinois
John Marshall
Kentucky
La Verne
* Lewis and Clark
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
LSU
Maine
* Maryland
* Miami
Michigan State
Minnesota
Notre Dame
Penn State
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
* Toledo
* UC Irvine
* U. Conn.
* USC
* Utah
Villanova
Wake Forest
Washington University
* Wayne State
Western New England
William & Mary
Wyoming

Scroll up for information about when the school began calling folks who've contributed to this thread (which is not necessarily when they began calling).

Please correct anything I've mistakenly omitted or included.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Sep 11, 2008 8:02:04 AM

CUNY has not yet begun making calls, though we expect to do so in the near future. Because of our unique mission, we are looking for candidates with a clear commitment to public interest work and public service. We expect to hire one clinician (preferably with immigration experience) and one "best athlete" candidate. For the second slot, a candidate wanting to teach criminal law or commercial subjects would probably be at an advantage. For more information, see our ad in the AALS bulletin, or contact Maureen McCafferty at the school.

Posted by: rebecca bratspies | Sep 11, 2008 8:06:32 AM

I really have to agree with Eric Muller and Lesley Wexler here. I can understand the very kind and helpful motivations and reasons behind this post, but I think it is not a particularly good idea. It adds tons of stress to the lives of job candidates--during what is already a horribly and cruelly stressful process--and with very little to no gain for these candidates. I guess this post and the comments on this already exists and there is nothing to be done about it now, but in the future this type of information might not be the best source of discussion on an otherwise helpful and wonderful blog.

Posted by: anon law prof | Sep 11, 2008 8:10:11 AM

FWIW: I certainly understand the comments of the law professor above. It does add stress to know what is happening, and when. But I do not agree that it is of little benefit to know this information, even setting aside the timing questions.

I have been on the market before, once where I knew (some of) this information, once where I did not. Both times, I had little success with AALS. I found it better, psychologically and otherwise, to know this information than not to. Better to be realistic and face up to the situation as it unfolds than to hang on unrealistically because one had no information, hoping against hope that a school would call, when in fact everyone was already finished. It is more stressful to be entirely in the dark for the duration of the process. I freely admit that not everyone might feel as I do, and would prefer not to know. But I don't think these disclosures necessarily add tons of stress -- indeed, I think they may relieve some of it. Just my own view, of course.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Sep 11, 2008 8:40:58 AM

I'm not on the market this year, but if I were this list would be an invaluable source of information. As has been noted elsewhere, information of this variety is available for those seeking to enter academia in nearly every other discipline.

More information available is almost always a good thing, not a bad thing. Let the candidates decide whether this information is more hurtful than helpful.

Posted by: Anonity | Sep 11, 2008 8:44:39 AM

Folks - per Dan's earlier request (and for the benefit of those of us who *are* interested in seeing this information posted), please post your meta-concerns at http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2008/09/a-law-school-hi.html.

Posted by: anon | Sep 11, 2008 9:34:04 AM

Just a heads up: I've deleted subsequent non-relevant comments on this thread. There are other venues for discussion; this is not the place. Thanks.

Posted by: Dan | Sep 11, 2008 9:36:43 AM

NLYS and UGA are calling.

Posted by: Meganon | Sep 11, 2008 1:47:20 PM

That should be NYLS - New York Law School.

Posted by: Maganon | Sep 11, 2008 1:48:09 PM

North Carolina has called.

Posted by: another candidate | Sep 11, 2008 5:54:31 PM

U. of Oregon

Posted by: anon | Sep 11, 2008 9:20:45 PM

Chicago-Kent

Posted by: anon | Sep 12, 2008 1:18:26 AM

For those who are posting, it would be helpful to know if these schools indicated subjects for which they are considering you to teach. Although topics are often included in ads in The Placement Bulletin, they do not always mesh with what a school later decides it's looking for.

Posted by: anon | Sep 12, 2008 3:05:22 PM

Most schools I have talked to do not have a specific course in mind. The seem to have my FAR form in front of them and mumble that they would probably have courses in at least 2 or 3 of the areas I have listed...

Schools that have specific courses seem to coincide directly with what was either posted on the bulletion or on this blog

Posted by: anon | Sep 12, 2008 10:04:13 PM

Cornell, Duke, U Chicago, USC, Fordham, U Utah, SUNY-Buffalo, Chicago-Kent, Ohio State

I've told some of these schools that I don't want to interview, as politely as I could. A friend told me that's 'unstrategic' and that I should schedule as many interviews as possible. But that seems rude to me, and a little crazy if I'm not actually interested in a particular school or location, as well as unfair on candidates who are keen on a particular place that I'm not. Shouldn't this practice be generalized?

Posted by: anon | Sep 13, 2008 11:22:49 PM

better to politely decline when they call then to have to cancel later when you have too many interviews.

Posted by: anon | Sep 14, 2008 9:01:22 AM

I agree. And one only has so much energy at AALS, so I don't see the point of filling up one's schedule with places where one would be unhappy and then maybe perform worse in one's key interviews as a result of being exhausted.

Posted by: anon | Sep 14, 2008 7:38:06 PM

Another update to start the week. Please continue to apply the previous caveats -- schools listed here may not be finished and others may have only recently begun. Schools new to the list since the last update are asterisked.

Akron
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
Boston University
Brooklyn
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
* Chicago
* Chicago-Kent
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
Colorado
Cornell
* Duke
Drexel
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
George Washington
* Georgia
Georgia State
Hofstra
Illinois
John Marshall
Kentucky
La Verne
Lewis and Clark
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
LSU
Maine
Maryland
Miami
Michigan State
Minnesota
* New York Law School
* North Carolina
Notre Dame
* Ohio State
* Oregon
Penn State
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
Toledo
UC Irvine
U. Conn.
USC
Utah
Villanova
Wake Forest
Washington University
Wayne State
Western New England
William & Mary
Wyoming

Please correct any mistakes.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Sep 14, 2008 9:22:34 PM

Add to this list Iowa and Mississippi College School of Law.

Posted by: anon | Sep 15, 2008 11:38:03 AM

Oklahoma City University School of Law.

Posted by: anon | Sep 15, 2008 12:21:37 PM

SMU

Posted by: anon | Sep 15, 2008 12:53:04 PM

Pace Law School

Posted by: anon | Sep 15, 2008 1:41:03 PM

University of San Francisco.

Posted by: anon | Sep 15, 2008 4:37:29 PM

Indiana, Baylor, University of Florida

Posted by: anon | Sep 16, 2008 9:59:03 PM

West Virginia School of Law, Southwestern, Northern Illinois

Posted by: anon | Sep 16, 2008 10:01:39 PM

Which Indiana? Indiana Bloomington or Indiana Indianapolis?

Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2008 9:48:13 AM

In case it makes folks feel better: I have gotten calls from schools several days after they are first listed here.

Posted by: aspiring prof | Sep 17, 2008 11:45:37 AM

I have had the same experience as aspiring prof directly above. A school first listed more than a week ago on this thread called me yesterday. FWIW.

Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2008 12:02:58 PM

I meant Indiana Bloomington

Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2008 12:12:19 PM

It sounds like most (all?) schools are calling. Or are some using email?

Posted by: dwk | Sep 17, 2008 1:22:54 PM

I've had one that used email (out of 3 offers to have an AALS interview).

Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2008 1:25:40 PM

I've only gotten calls. The few e-mails I've gotten were follow-ups after a message was first left on my VM.

Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2008 1:28:12 PM

Case Western e-mailed. A few other schools (Wyoming, Western New England, and George Mason) e-mailed first to set up a time talk. The follow phone calls were then longer ones than just arranging a time to meet in DC. The professors explained what they were looking for, asked me how I felt moving to their city, etc. Might be good to keep in mind when returning those calls.

Most schools just call and some have an administrative assistant call instead of someone on the hiring committee.

And yes, other schools have followed up with e-mails confirming the interview and asking (eek!) for my job talk paper.

Posted by: aspiring prof | Sep 17, 2008 3:56:17 PM

Berkeley called today

Posted by: anon | Sep 17, 2008 4:40:59 PM

Nebraska has started calling

Posted by: Anon | Sep 17, 2008 6:48:09 PM

UC Davis called about a few days ago.

Posted by: Anon | Sep 17, 2008 6:54:16 PM

Another aggregation. Please bear in mind the previous caveats, as well as the very recent comments that some schools that have been on the list for a while have made calls as recently as yesterday. Schools new to this list as of the last aggregation are asterisked.

Akron
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
* Baylor
Boston University
Brooklyn
* California-Berkeley
* California-Davis
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
Chicago
Chicago-Kent
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
Colorado
Cornell
Duke
Drexel
* Florida
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
George Washington
Georgia
Georgia State
Hofstra
Illinois
* Indiana Bloomington
* Iowa
John Marshall
Kentucky
La Verne
Lewis and Clark
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
LSU
Maine
Maryland
Miami
Michigan State
Minnesota
* Mississippi College of Law
* Nebraska
New York Law School
North Carolina
* Northern Illinois
Notre Dame
Ohio State
* Oklahoma City University College of Law
Oregon
* Pace
Penn State
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
* San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
* SMU
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
* Southwestern
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
Toledo
UC Irvine
U. Conn.
USC
Utah
Villanova
Wake Forest
Washington University
Wayne State
Western New England
* West Virginia
William & Mary
Wyoming

Please correct whatever is wrong.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Sep 17, 2008 7:38:26 PM

Have any schools mentioned potential economic impacts on hiring?

Posted by: anon | Sep 18, 2008 4:42:58 PM

University of Idaho called today. None of the schools I've spoke with has mentioned economic impacts (although I haven't asked..)

Posted by: anon | Sep 18, 2008 6:33:02 PM

Florida Coastal

Posted by: anon | Sep 18, 2008 6:38:50 PM

For what it's worth, I got a call yesterday from a school that's been on the list for almost 2 weeks. And they seemed pretty interested to talk, it didn't have the feel of a 2nd-best "we'll reach out to you now" conversation. In fact the conversation was one of the 2-3 chattiest that I've had with these scheduling calls.

So . . . there's one tiny data point suggesting that the fact that calls have gone out already doesn't necessarily mean that's *all* the calls that are going to happen.

Posted by: anon | Sep 18, 2008 9:21:53 PM

Pittsburgh

Posted by: anon | Sep 19, 2008 10:55:05 AM

UC Hastings and William Mitchell William Mitchell is not planning to go to DC and instead is looking to do hour-long conference calls to determine who to invite to campus.

FWIW... Through this list, I saw that a school that I was interested (and was looking for someone in my field) had made calls, but had not called me. So I sent the hiring chair an e-mail with my materials expressing my interest. That school called this morning inviting me to interview, mentioning that they would not have pulled my file if not for my e-mail because my resume suggested that I would not have been interested in that geographical area.

Posted by: aspiring prof | Sep 19, 2008 12:51:45 PM

The comment above suggests a sufficient justification for the thread!

Posted by: anon | Sep 19, 2008 1:33:59 PM

Louisville, Hamline, Cal Western, Akron, Cleveland Marshall, Quinnipiac

Posted by: anon | Sep 19, 2008 10:42:43 PM

Thomas Jefferson, Southwestern, U Utah, Chicago-Kent, U Chicago, Ohio State, Duke, Cornell, South Carolina, California Western, Boston U, Columbia, Fordham, USC.

Posted by: anon | Sep 20, 2008 11:10:54 AM

Not too much new, but here's a new list to start the week. Schools new to the list asterisked. Bear all past caveats in mind. Of note (at least to me) see the comments above of aspiring prof who used the list to stir up the pot and get an interview with a school s/he was interested in. I hope it works for others.

Akron
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
Baylor
Boston University
Brooklyn
California-Berkeley
California-Davis
* California-Hastings
* California Western
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
Chicago
Chicago-Kent
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
Colorado
* Columbia
Cornell
Duke
Drexel
Florida
* Florida Coastal
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
George Washington
Georgia
Georgia State
* Hamline
Hofstra
* Idaho
Illinois
Indiana Bloomington
Iowa
John Marshall
Kentucky
La Verne
Lewis and Clark
* Louisville
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
LSU
Maine
Maryland
Miami
Michigan State
Minnesota
Mississippi College of Law
Nebraska
New York Law School
North Carolina
Northern Illinois
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma City University College of Law
Oregon
Pace
Penn State
* Pittsburgh
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seton Hall
SMU
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
Southwestern
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
Toledo
UC Irvine
U. Conn.
USC
Utah
Villanova
Wake Forest
Washington University
Wayne State
Western New England
West Virginia
William & Mary
* William Mitchell
Wyoming

Please correct mistakes.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Sep 22, 2008 7:59:48 AM

Aspiring Law Professors may find the resources at the Legal Scholarship Blog to be helpful: http://legalscholarshipblog.com/law-teaching-resources/

Posted by: Legal Scholarship Blog | Sep 22, 2008 11:00:24 AM

Albany Law

Posted by: anon | Sep 22, 2008 9:55:10 PM

Northern Kentucky

Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 9:24:46 AM

Houston

Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 1:57:31 PM

Anybody hear from the University of Washington or Seattle University yet?

Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 3:09:08 PM

Any idea how long it usually takes a school to make calls, from the time they start to the end? Just wondering...

Posted by: anon | Sep 23, 2008 3:43:31 PM

As a member of a law school appointments committee, I can confirm that the calls can sometimes spread over as much as a month. In our case, the timing of the call has lots to do with timing of feedback from references; of receipt, distribution, and analysis of written work; and of committee member availability to meet -- and does not reflect the level of interest.

Posted by: anonprof | Sep 24, 2008 2:39:11 AM

Boston College

Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2008 1:27:47 PM

Pepperdine

Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2008 2:52:46 PM

Golden Gate

Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2008 3:27:50 PM

Yes, I heard from Seattle.

Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2008 4:39:03 PM

Some more that are missing: Loyola New Orleans, University of Texas, University of Pennsylvania, University of Toronto, Widener University, University of Virginia

Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2008 4:41:02 PM

CUNY

Posted by: anon | Sep 24, 2008 4:50:47 PM

Campbell

Posted by: anon | Sep 25, 2008 4:01:27 PM

Presumably these are all entry-level AALS calls. Are committees looking at / contacting laterals on this schedule as well? Have these schools made lateral contacts?

Posted by: Another Anon | Sep 25, 2008 5:28:41 PM

Creighton University School of Law

Posted by: anon | Sep 25, 2008 5:49:58 PM

South Texas, Capital.

Posted by: anon | Sep 26, 2008 8:36:34 AM

Yale, Stanford, Georgetown

Posted by: anon | Sep 26, 2008 3:51:38 PM

Denver.

Posted by: anon | Sep 26, 2008 4:32:02 PM

Barry

Posted by: Anon | Sep 26, 2008 6:13:19 PM

New England School of Law

Posted by: anon | Sep 26, 2008 7:49:50 PM

End of week aggregation (new schools asterisked), please correct mistakes/omissions:

Akron
* Albany
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
* Barry
Baylor
* Boston College
Boston University
Brooklyn
California-Berkeley
California-Davis
California-Hastings
California Western
* Campbell
* Capital
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
Chicago
Chicago-Kent
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
Colorado
Columbia
Cornell
* Creighton
* CUNY
* Denver
Duke
Drexel
Florida
Florida Coastal
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
* Georgetown
George Washington
Georgia
Georgia State
* Golden Gate
Hamline
Hofstra
* Houston
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana Bloomington
Iowa
John Marshall
Kentucky
La Verne
Lewis and Clark
Louisville
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
Loyola New Orleans
LSU
Maine
Maryland
Miami
Michigan State
Minnesota
Mississippi College of Law
Nebraska
* New England School of Law
New York Law School
North Carolina
Northern Illinois
* Northern Kentucky
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma City University College of Law
Oregon
Pace
Penn State
* Pennsylvania
* Pepperdine
Pittsburgh
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
San Francisco
Santa Clara
* Seattle
Seton Hall
SMU
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
* South Texas
Southwestern
* Stanford
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
Temple
* Texas
Thomas Jefferson
Toledo
* Toronto
UC Irvine
U. Conn.
USC
Utah
Villanova
* Virginia
Wake Forest
Washington University
Wayne State
Western New England
West Virginia
* Widener
William & Mary
William Mitchell
Wyoming
* Yale

Posted by: anon | Sep 26, 2008 8:03:23 PM

Since those who have already received on-campus first round interviews may have already begun to receive call-back interviews, I thought it might be a good idea to make a request for information on this front. I understand that revealing this may be slightly more delicate from the candidate's point of view, as a school, as of this point, may not have extended that many call-back interviews. Still, if you feel comfortable disclosing this information, I think it might be worthwhile to know which schools have already begun to make call-back moves. For call-backs, it also strikes me as worthwhile not only to know who has been calling, but how many call-backs a school has extended. So, assuming that candidates are comfortable doing this (and they may not be), it seems to me that it would be informationally optimal if candidates posted whatever call-backs they had received irrespective of whether a school has already been listed by another candidate.

If candidates do feel comfortable revealing this information, I can begin to create a separate call-back aggregation with the number of call-backs a school has extended listed in parenthesis after the school (if this is helpful to folks). As time goes on, perhaps candidates will feel increasingly comfortable about sharing this information and we will have an ongoing, fluid, and rough sense of how things are developing.

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico -- call back phase | Sep 28, 2008 10:53:43 AM

Anyone have a thought as to whether the financial crisis is changing hiring expectations for committees?

Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2008 10:35:27 AM

I posed the same question about a week ago.

Posted by: Anon too | Sep 29, 2008 11:19:54 AM

How could it not effect a trimming-back of hiring? I suppose one could put together a concocted story of laid-off i-bankers seeking admission to law schools, but the real story is that wealth is disappearing, so relative luxuries (like low student-faculty ratios) are likely to face some pressure. Of course (ulp!) the really "expensive" decision is tenuring someone. . . .

Posted by: anonX | Sep 29, 2008 3:20:45 PM

I wonder if contacting schools, outside of the AALS process, is counter-productive.

I've managed to line up 13 interviews for the 2008 AALS FRC. I've emailed quite a number to suggest we get together at the AALS, but none of them have responded positively (yet). That is, the 13 that did contact me did so on their own initiative, after seeing my AALS FRC form. I'm wondering if the Faculty Recruitment Committees have an attitude of "Don't call us, we'll call you." In fact, I'm wondering if my contacting a school actually is a negative -- could it be that schools that I email think to themselves "This guy must not be that great if he is contacting us separately, if he can't line up good interviews through the AALS process."

Most of the 13 interviews I'll have are 2nd and 3rd tier schools. And it's not like I've just been emailing 1st tier schools. I've emailed the entire spectrum, from 1st to 4th.

Sure, if I have some particular thing for one particular school, and that wouldn't be apparent from my AALS form, and I can credibly explain how I have a thing for this particular school, then it's probably worthwhile contacting them separately, but otherwise, it may actually be counter-productive.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2008 3:23:06 PM

In response to the comment immediately above, this has not generally been my experience. Between AALS and pre-meat market meetings, I've got about 20 interviews. While it's true that most of those came about without my having made contact, I'd say that at least two or three -- maybe more -- might not have asked without some explicit expression of interest from me. On the other hand, I've also emailed or otherwise made contact with other schools from which I haven't gotten any interest. So I think it won't necessarily help, but I'm disinclined to think that it could ever hurt.

Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2008 3:45:24 PM

Twenty interviews? Pre-meat market interviews? For those of us with only a few paltry bites, it would be illuminating and very helpful to know how you're getting so much action. Do you have multiple degrees? A bevy of publications? Clandestine connections? Inquiring minds want to know!

Posted by: Anon too | Sep 29, 2008 3:51:32 PM

To Anon too:

I'm happy to make contact separately to discuss (if you can think of a way) and did not mean at all to come off arrogant. I'm quite sure there are many, many people doing far better than I am. I meant only to give a sense of the percentages with respect to what has happened to me on the making contact/not making contact front, in order to support my sense that making contact seems to me to be at best a good thing and at worst a not bad thing.

Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2008 4:45:51 PM

To anon:

I can't think of a way to connect without losing anonymity, but I sincerely appreciate the offer. I am just trying to figure out why schools are not calling. My degree is good, pubs are plentiful, and I have done some teaching. But the phone has been silent for about a week, and I see how schools are contacting other candidates and it's hard not to feel discouraged. I have made contact with several schools, but still no calls. So, I figure either the same people are getting all of the bites, or my subject areas are not "hot" this year. Regardless of all of that, I do wish you the best. If I had 20 interviews by now, I would dance down the street.

Posted by: Anon too | Sep 29, 2008 5:02:38 PM

Thanks, Anon too. From what I can tell, it isn't over yet, and calls continue to come in through the month of October and right up to the conference. I know first hand how frustrating and discouraging it can be, as this isn't my first AALS rodeo. But hang in there. Apologies to others for clogging the thread.

Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2008 5:19:42 PM

Call me old-fashioned, but for those schools with which I've initiated contact, I've done so by snail mail rather than e-mail. My reasoning? 1. It's more professional. 2. It's harder to ignore a package in the mail than one of a hundred e-mails the appointments chair may get each day. 3. It's especially harder to ignore all the components of the package when you open it up -- CV, publications, research agenda, what have you -- than it is to ignore 3 or 4 random attachments to an email.

The only downside I can imagine is that, from what I've heard, appointments committee members tend to circulate materials by e-mail -- but if that's the case, it's no trouble for me to ask, when an interested school calls, "Would you like me to send you those materials by e-mail as well?"

Does all this work? I really don't know. For what it's worth, I got calls from about 7 of the 30-some-odd schools I direct mailed. I don't know how many would have otherwise gotten in touch with me had I not sent them a letter, but I'm guessing at least a couple (this is based on the fact that these schools are geographically close to the area I've been living for the past few years, and the fact that I've also gotten a lot of calls from schools that I did not direct mail).

Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2008 5:24:57 PM

I e-mailed a few cover letters with attachments to faculty hiring chairs. I targeted them to (a) places announcing an interest for someone in my field in the AALS bulletin and/or (b) places that were high on my list to which I did not have any apparent geographical ties.

Although many of these e-mails did not yield interviews, some did. In fact as I mentioned on an earlier post in this thread, in at least one case my e-mail was the reason I got the interview. I also got a few responses thanking me for my materials. For the few that later called to set up an interview, many remembered that they had already received my materials and mentioned that they had looked at them. Thus, I don't think sending a polite letter expressing interest is likely to be harmful. However, I would not recommend sending out a blanket series of letters or e-mails to all law schools.

My impression though is that it is past the time for such letters. At this point, it might make it more likely to appear that you have an empty schedule and we all know the buzz about an applicant can play quite a role. An exception might be if a school posted a new announcement in the most recent AALS bulletin.

Any current prof out there wanna chime in?

Of course, one of the most helpful things is asking one of your mentors to contact people at schools you are most interested in. A few of the phone calls I received mentioned that they had talked to one of my recommenders, and I think that helped. For example, I got a call this morning from a school that has been listed above for a few weeks and the caller specifically mentioned that she had talked to a professor about me.

Posted by: Aspiring Prof | Sep 29, 2008 6:05:14 PM

Anon & Anon too:

If you really want to get in touch, one or both of you could sign up for a free email account just for this purpose and then publish the email address here. It's not "really" anonymous, but then at some level, neither are these comments.

Posted by: Just a thought | Sep 29, 2008 9:41:15 PM

For all its worth -- I don't have 20 interviews -- I have 8 FRC interviews, 2 pre-AALS interviews, and this is my second time around. I received calls from schools whose interviews I had to decline, simply for family reasons. I sent out 25 packets this summer and they played a role in securing 2 FRC interviews. I've been strategically emailing some hiring chairs this week, but I am now going to stop because it may work against me and I don't want to look desperate. At the same time, I know some schools are not calling until the first week in October, so I am waiting to see what happens... I hope this helps someone...

Posted by: anon3 | Sep 30, 2008 12:19:51 AM

syracuse

Posted by: anon | Sep 30, 2008 11:48:13 PM

Radio silence this whole week so far.

Posted by: anon | Oct 1, 2008 3:32:44 PM

Here's my question of the day: When you receive a letter from a school asking you for to apply for its VAP program, does that mean it isn't interested in you otherwise? Or do they just send them to everyone? I got letters like this from Georgetown and NYU.

Has anyone out there received a VAP/Fellowship letter from a school but then also scheduled an AALS interview with them?

Posted by: aspiring prof | Oct 1, 2008 7:19:43 PM

University of the Pacific is now calling, as well.

A question for those in the know: I have received a few e-mails in the past week / week and 1/2 from schools (including at least one school not listed above) asking for supplemental materials, such as published articles, job talk pieces, etc. In replying to these requests, I have not asked the representatives of these schools when, if at all, I'll hear back from them. And so far, well, I haven't heard back from them. Might anyone out there have a sense as to how long a turnaround these schools may have, and whether it would be deemed rude to call to follow up on the earlier communication?

Posted by: anon | Oct 1, 2008 9:59:55 PM

The same thing happened to me--several schools emailed me to ask for my job market paper and after sending it to them I never heard back from them. Some of those schools have already started calling, according to this blog. It made me seriously question the quality of my job market paper...

Posted by: anon | Oct 1, 2008 10:51:51 PM

I too have had a number of schools request additional materials, although I have had somewhat better luck turning these into interview requests. The turn-around time has been variable--from less than a week to almost a month.

My instinct would be not to reach out again to see if/when a decision has been made. They know who you are. You gained their attention with your FAR form/resume, and now they have your article(s). I'm not sure what would be gained by pestering a busy hiring chair.

Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2008 10:20:35 AM

Tulane

Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2008 2:44:59 PM

A couple of people have asked about whether the financial crisis will affect hiring. Today's New York Times has an article describing the crisis's impact on higher education, which mentions that Boston University has instituted a hiring freeze:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/02/education/02college.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2008 2:45:03 PM

With respect to the hiring freeze at B.U.: it's my understanding that, at least officially, this hiring freeze does not impact faculty searches that are already underway. But I have no insider information. Perhaps a prof. at BU who chances to find this thread might clarify?

Posted by: anon | Oct 2, 2008 4:22:41 PM

For Anon and Anon2 way above (who got no real answers to the questions about whether it is productive to email schools). Here is my take from going through the process 2 years ago and sitting on an appointments committee now:

1. 20 interviews is a lot, for anyone. Anything over 10 is pretty good, I think. Any 1 interview can lead to a job, so if you don't have many interviews just roll with it and do your best.

2. Emailing appointments chairs will likely yield few, if any results. As noted above, many people email. Also, this is committee action, so you not only have to get traction with the chair, you have to get traction from multiple members of the committee. If you didn't get a look from the "we'll call you" stage, you aren't going to do much better when you call in. Curriculum needs are driving much of this, so if your package doesn't appeal to the particular needs, you won't get a second look no matter how great you are.

3. That said, the above comments show that sending in can result in interviews. I suspect that email v. hard copy depends on the recipient.

Posted by: Michael Risch | Oct 2, 2008 7:05:50 PM

Syracuse doesn't appear to be on the list yet, but they are scheduling interviews.

Posted by: Anonymoose | Oct 3, 2008 4:59:23 PM

Hello,

I noticed mention of the hiring freeze here at Boston University. The understanding in the prior post was correct--it does not affect searches already underway. We have approval to conduct searches to fill our open positions and our hiring process is not affected by this. What the University President was saying was that we will carry through with all current construction projects and authorized hiring, but going forward we are going to be cautious until we see how the financial situation shakes out, with more than usual justification needed for new projects and hiring not yet authorized. His main reason was the possibility we might have to shift resources toward financial aid in the future.

Jack Beermann
BU Appointments Chair

Posted by: Jack Beermann | Oct 3, 2008 5:14:24 PM

I am not on the market this year, so I apologize in advance if this question interferes with the thread. (And I'd be much obliged if someone could redirect me to a more appropriate venue.)

In a nutshell: Is the law hiring market tightening so quickly that you have to walk on water to get a job, even at a 3rd tier school?

I had been hoping to hit the market next fall, when I'll be starting the last year of a Ph.D. in a social science (not econ) in a top-three school. I have no publications of any kind (but might by next fall), and a J.D. from a top-ten school but not top-three. I did not clerk, do law review, or get Order of the Coif.

Nonetheless, reliable sources several years ago had suggested that I would still be a viable candidate for the law market simply by virtue of a law-related Ph.D. from a top program. But reading this thread, I'm finding it almost impossible to calibrate my expectations appropriately for next year; I get the sense that the market has tightened substantially even in the past 2-4 years. True? And, relatedly, can a Ph.D. still buy one a seat at the table, or are law school accolades the real hiring currency?

I realize that I haven't divulged enough to get a clear answer as to my own situation, but hopefully the general question is clear and apropos. Thanks.

Posted by: A. N. Onymous | Oct 3, 2008 8:18:04 PM

UCLA has started making calls.

Posted by: anon | Oct 3, 2008 9:11:27 PM

> I get the sense that the market has tightened
> substantially even in the past 2-4 years. True?

Yes.

> And, relatedly, can a Ph.D. still buy one a seat at > the table, or are law school accolades the real
> hiring currency?

Neither are sufficient to get (a lot of) interviews--both do help, but it's more about your written work--I don't think where/if published matters so much, the "gold standard" is having 1-2 written pieces to share with hiring committees that they will view as *solid*.

--anon hiring prof. at a top-10 school

Posted by: anon | Oct 4, 2008 12:27:29 AM

to the anon hiring prof (or anyone else that wants to chime in)--

If you don't mind my asking...can co-authored be included in the "gold standard", or do they get substantially discounted on the job market? Even more, is it a curse to go on the job market with a co-authored piece?

Posted by: anon | Oct 4, 2008 1:59:35 AM

I'll echo an earlier, apparently unanswered question--what might the status of contacts for lateral positions be? Do committees run on the same schedule as for entry-levels, or wait till spring?

Posted by: Anon | Oct 4, 2008 9:47:24 PM

> can co-authored be included in the "gold standard", or do they get
> substantially discounted on the job market?

In my experience no significant discount--see, e.g., Gilson & Mnookin's success with such a strategy.

> what might the status of contacts for lateral positions be? Do
> committees run on the same schedule as for entry-levels, or wait till
> spring?

In my experience lateral hiring/visits activity occurs throughout the academic year.

Posted by: anon hiring prof | Oct 5, 2008 1:28:37 AM

Memphis

Posted by: anon | Oct 6, 2008 9:40:44 AM

New aggregation to start the week, with schools new to the list asterisked (and adding Indiana-Indianapolis). Bear pasts caveats in mind. Please also remember that if you have call back data you are willing to share, that's beginning to be helpful too.

Akron
Albany
American
Arizona
Arizona State
Baltimore
Barry
Baylor
Boston College
Boston University
Brooklyn
California-Berkeley
California-Davis
California-Hastings
California Western
Campbell
Capital
Cardozo
Case Western
Chapman
Charleston
Chicago
Chicago-Kent
Cincinnati
Cleveland Marshall
Colorado
Columbia
Cornell
Creighton
CUNY
Denver
Duke
Drexel
Florida
Florida Coastal
Fordham
FSU
George Mason
Georgetown
George Washington
Georgia
Georgia State
Golden Gate
Hamline
Hofstra
Houston
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana Bloomington
* Indiana Indianapolis
Iowa
John Marshall
Kentucky
La Verne
Lewis and Clark
Louisville
Loyola Chicago
Loyola LA
Loyola New Orleans
LSU
Maine
Maryland
* Memphis
Miami
Michigan State
Minnesota
Mississippi College of Law
Nebraska
New England School of Law
New York Law School
North Carolina
Northern Illinois
Northern Kentucky
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma City University College of Law
Oregon
Pace
* Pacific
Penn State
Pennsylvania
Pepperdine
Pittsburgh
Quinnipiac
Richmond
Roger Williams
St. John's
St. Louis
St. Thomas
San Diego
San Francisco
Santa Clara
Seattle
Seton Hall
SMU
South Carolina
Southern Illinois
South Texas
Southwestern
Stanford
Stetson
SUNY-Buffalo
* Syracuse
Temple
Texas
Thomas Jefferson
Toledo
Toronto
* Tulane
UC Irvine
* UCLA
U. Conn.
USC
Utah
Villanova
Virginia
Wake Forest
Washington University
Wayne State
Western New England
West Virginia
Widener
William & Mary
William Mitchell
Wyoming
Yale

Posted by: Pro Bono Publico | Oct 6, 2008 10:08:45 AM

Ohio Northern

Posted by: Anon to the eXtreme | Oct 6, 2008 1:21:25 PM

Topic: When/Which Articles to Share?

I have essentially four articles of note:

A: In the main law review of a Tier 1 school.

B: In a lesser law review, sometimes viewed as a practitioner law review, but frankly this Article B is, I think, my best work. It's the best-researched, the best thought out, the most footnotes, perhaps the best written. Those who have read the entire article give it very high praise, but those who read the title only say it sounds very practitioner-oriented.

C: The most policy-wonky, the most academic, the most accessible by a generalist audience, the least practical. It's actually not accepted for publication yet, but has been accepted to be presented in its current draft form for a well respected academic conference. I'm not super-comfortable talking about C, but would be about A or B (as I am still working on it, see some flaws in it, and haven't figured out the answers to those flaws yet).

D: A short, concise, clever, provocative practitioner article.

I listed A-C in the publications section of the FRC form, and listed D in the Other/Miscellaneous section. I went to a Top 10 law school, but was not law review, order of the coif, a clerk for a judge, or a PhD. I graduated from law school over 10 years ago. I have 14 interviews (so far) for the upcoming AALS conference.

Articles A, B, and D are all available on Westlaw, Lexis, etc. I have a very nice PDF version of B. One school specifically asked me if I wanted to send along any materials, so I sent them B.

Question: Should I send B, or any of the other articles, before the AALS job fair, to the other 13 schools I will be interviewing? Or should I just figure they can access them through WestLaw if they want to? Is there a downside to sending B, or any of the articles, to the FRCs prior to the November meeting?

Posted by: anon | Oct 6, 2008 5:01:17 PM

I have found that most schools tell you what they want either on the phone or in the follow up letter/e-mail confirming the interview.

I tend to just ask straight out what schools want. Some folks want PDFs of anything you have. Some folks don't want you to bother if it is available on WL. Others only want your job talk and, of course, some schools don't want anything unless they decide to call you back. I don't think there is any harm to just asking people. I wouldn't bother with all the back story regarding the articles though...

(Personally, I am not sending folks copies of things published in practitioner publications or on websites, but I would probably change that position if I viewed such material as my best academic work)

Posted by: anon | Oct 6, 2008 6:22:48 PM

A broader version of the "which to send" question: either for entry-level or lateral, should a targeted letter (hard copy or email) include supporting documents such as reprints, preprints, teaching evals? Obviously a c.v., but what of the other documents? Do committees prefer packages or to look things up on their own if interested?

Posted by: A different anon | Oct 6, 2008 6:26:13 PM

University of British Columbia

Posted by: Anon targeted by Canadian schools | Oct 6, 2008 6:54:41 PM

Maybe we should start a list of schools that have not yet started calling? Or, if anyone knows a school that is just starting/waiting to make calls, could you share the info? Thanks

Posted by: anon | Oct 7, 2008 8:43:57 AM

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