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Friday, May 18, 2007
Christopher Hitchens: God? Feh!
Last night, one of my favorite intellectual pugilists, Christopher Hitchens, came to town to perform his enfant terrible show. This time the subject was Hitchens' new book, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything. Speaking at Temple Judea(!), Hitchens drew a packed house (maybe a 1000 people). So much so, Rabbi Goldberg, who was moderating Hitchens' talk, had to restrain himself: it's hard to see the place so crowded, the rabbi lamented, and not get to launch into a High Holy Day sermon, even in May. (Rabbi Goldberg has a blog post about this himself. Worth checking out.)
Hitchens was not the only draw, however. Also invited to the event were Lama Karma Chotso, a Buddhist nun who is now president of the Interfaith Council of Greater Hollywood (FL) and several scholars from FIU's Center for the Study of Spirituality, including: Prof. Daniel J. Alvarez (torn between evangelical and faithlessness), Prof. Nathan Katz (Orthodox Jew who's a buddy of the Dalai Lama), and Prof. Aisha Musa (Muslim). What follows after the jump is my recollection of the gist of the exchanges but is not to be relied upon as an accurate transcription. If there are corrections that need to be made, I will speedily oblige.
Hitchens began provocatively.
Speaking briefly but passionately, Hitchens thrust forward with the claim that religious faith is corrupt and absurd: he drew on two examples to spark debate: the Akedah (near-sacrificial binding) of Isaac, and the practice of circumcision. What kind of world do we want to live in where parents are ready to both kill their children to mollify a divine request and mutilate their children (whether boy or girl) to show their faithfulness?
Unfortunately, the respondents did not parry Hitchens' initial provocations during the talk, instead raising the problems they saw with the facts in the book. (To be fair, they weren't told what Hitchens was going to say that evening, so they read the book and gave their reactions.) Thus, for example, Katz, in his response, pointed out that Hitchens had fallen for the claim that Orthodox Jews make love through a sheet with a hole in it. The claim is an arrant myth. And Katz rightly tweaked Hitchens for not having done his homework. But in the course of making his rebuke, Katz said that telling such a story was effectively only a few degrees less bad than raising the canard of the blood-libel. Katz also contested CH's claim that religion mucks everything up by invoking some of the empirical data suggesting that religious people recover from surgery because of prayer, are more likely to give to charity, and that circumcision is a good preventive tool against HIV transmission.
When it was Hitchens' turn to speak, true to form, he went apeshit upon Katz's comparison of what he wrote to the blood-libel, saying, essentially, that if Katz hadn't been his invited guest at this house of worship, he would go outside and beat him senseless. So much for that burgeoning friendship... On the merits, Hitchens said, look, if I'm wrong about the sheets with holes, then so be it; I'll happily remove it. It doesn't hurt my overall claim that religious practice denigrates women and is afraid of the female birth canal. As to the empirical claims that religion has a healing effect, Hitchens said, why do we need medicine at all then? And if religious people are to be praised for their charity, doesn't it undermine the goodness of such a charitable impulse if it's done for fear of powers invisible, as Hobbes would put it? The larger claim that we need God to be good is patently false, says Hitchens.
Professor Musa took Hitchens to task about which translation of the Koran he was purporting to use in the book, and the one he actually used, and then made a larger point: the Koran is a wonderful book demonstrating that Islam is a religion of peace, and Islam is being corrupted in some places by the human element. Showing he was not afraid, as he put it, to attack the ideas of a Muslim woman in a wheelchair, Hitchens called bollocks: why is it that not a single Muslim authority issued a Fatwa against Saddam's genocide against the Kurdish Mulsim population? Why does the Koran call for death to infidels in this and that sura? And on.
Prof. Alvarez, meanwhile, chastized Hitchens for having evinced no empathy for the religious worldview in his book, and more sharply, contended that Hitchens' preferred secular humanism and scientism led to the Nazi and fascist worldviews. Hitchens responded with a learned disquisition on the Catholic Church's ties to fascism throughout Europe, and how the Church during WWII asked its priests to say prayers for the Nazi regime. Alvarez responded: Albert Speer once wrote that the Germans weren't better killers because of their Christian conscience. Hitchens: 25% of the German killing machine were practicing Catholics. Not one got excommunicated. Know who got excommunicated? Goebbels. Know why? He married a Protestant. Game over.
Even the gracious Buddhist nun got her drubbing from Hitchens. Sure, everyone thinks Buddhists are such lovely people. And you're no different. But Zen Buddhism was the religious motivation for the Japanese suicide bombers during WWII and much of the ongoing violence in Sri Lanka is inspired by Buddhists too. So, how do we know, Hitchens asks, which Buddhism is right? The cheery one or the deathly one? Isn't there a danger to the surrender of reason to religion?
As he wrapped up, just before questions from the audience, Hitchens quoted from memory much of the following often distorted passage of Marx from his Contribution to "Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right."
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.
Though the rhetoric of the passage is quite lovely, the allusion to Marx made me wonder how Hitchens proposed reason would better adjudicate the claims among varying secular worldviews.
If Hitchens criticizes the books in light of the practices done in their name, then citing Marx is problematic, right? Hitchens knows full well of the many millions of people slaughtered under Communism. Indeed today, various people believe the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (which Hitchens robustly supported) involve crimes against good sense if not humanity. In light of the crimes of communism (and, to some, the crimes of quasi-liberal imperialism), can Hitchens simply say, ain't no flies on us? What method or assurances can Hitchens promise?
It may be that Hitchens is saying: look, there are two horses running, and I'm ready to ride this one and not the other, to take my chances, in other words, with the horse of anti-theism. But that's a mightily more modest tone than the one struck last night and in his writings.
Update: A comment below indicates that I likely erred in recalling Hitchens' point about Buddhism's role in religious violence today in Sri Lanka, so I've amended the post somewhat. Thanks Patrick.
Posted by Dan Markel on May 18, 2007 at 11:18 AM in Books, Current Affairs, Dan Markel, Religion | Permalink
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Dan,
This may be an error in transcription, I don't know, but the Tamils are typically or at least nominally 'Hindu' (there are some Muslims and even Christians who are Tamils, as well as members of other traditions, but most of these are in India, not Sri Lanka), and the Sinhalese are Buddhists, so the following is incorrect: "Tamils in Sri Lanka committed their campaign of terror in professed faithfulness to their Buddhism." Which by no means excuses the Buddhists of Sri Lanka who have endorsed or participated in violence (structural and otherwise) themselves against the Tamils.
Posted by: Patrick S. O'Donnell | May 18, 2007 12:06:37 PM
One other small thing: Hitchens is more than "anti-theist," as that would leave open the possibility for him to find favor with religious traditions that are not theistic: Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism, and arguably, the Jains (one might find 'God talk' among Jains owing to the larger Indic environment, but this 'God' is not at all the God of theism). Hitchens is anti-religious and is tone deaf when it comes to spirituality. He was on a panel with Jonathan Kirsch and others at the Los Angeles Times Book Festival broadcast on C-SPAN and I think the panelists defended religious worldviews rather well, without at the same time apologizing for all the utter nonsense, fanaticism, and violence that has been conducted by people under the banners of this or that religion. In the twentieth century, one thinks of the horrors of World War I, the Stalinist Purges, the genocidal practices of the Nazis, the Communists under Mao (including the famine of the late 1950s and early 1960s in which upwards of some 30 million people needlessly perished), the Belgian Congo under Leopold, the Khmer Rouge, Rwandan genocide, etc., etc.; this catalogue of horrors does not have its roots in religion(s), so there's plenty of blame to go around.
Posted by: Patrick S. O'Donnell | May 18, 2007 12:25:33 PM
It seems as though most of Hitchens's rhetoric focuses on the atrocities committed in the name of religion, without necessarily acknowledging that historically, the lines between religion/politics/governance are pretty much non-existent. And your point about Marx and the atrocities committed under the guise of Communism are right on point.
Maybe he's right, maybe it's all religion's fault... but I think time will tell. Give secularism a try and see how long it takes for man to continue committing atrocities against man, not on the basis of god, but of race, class, nationalism, etc. It sells books, but I think he's set religion up as a straw man.
Posted by: Dave! | May 18, 2007 1:10:34 PM
Every time I lead Law & Religion with my law students (and sometimes follow), we have a wide range of ultimate beliefs and discussion styles, and I almost always have one or two students with strong atheist, agnostic, or other non-theistic belief systems. I ask that our discussions occur in an atmosphere of mutual respect, and that we all listen more than we talk. We have had only one verbal "fight" in five semesters of the course, and that didn't involve the non-believers. I can understand Mr. Hitchens's outrage with religion, since I have a few hot buttons of my own, such as a state prosecutor who recently ventured that when we execute a defendant in a capital case, we are telling that defendant that "his life has no worth." The best lesson that can be drawn--or repeated--from exchanges like the one Dan describes is that we should "love our enemies" because they will teach us more about ourselves than most of our friends ever will.
Patrick is quite right that we can talk about the positive contributions of spirituality, and I would suggest religion equally rather than secondarily, without getting into apologia for the excesses or improper uses of religion. But both spirituality and religion must account for their excesses and denounce their improper uses not only for sake of their own values, but also for social and political reasons, and perhaps out of deeper human senses of right, decency, and fairness that may be pre-social and even pre-religious, in the same sense that Mark Twain said that "even a dog knows the difference between being stumbled over and being kicked."
As long as we have people like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and their ilk either in politics or in government, two things are going to be true. First, spirituality is going to have a hard time selling itself to yet-unpersuaded buyers in public affairs (to say nothing of spiritual or religious affairs), and religion is going to have an even harder time. Second, differently persuaded believers like Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban, to take only two examples, and non-believers like Mr. Hitchens, are going to be ready to tangle with them on any terms of engagement. I am not sure what the upshot of all that is: perhaps no more than this, that we simply need to be ready to have the sorts of exchanges that we have with the Mr. Hitchenses of the world, and we need to remain who we are in those exchanges so that we can continue to be who we are in more respectful, and hopefuly more productive, conversations. It sounds like the other speakers that Dan describes understood that pretty well, and they set a good example for all of us.
Posted by: Ed Brewer | May 18, 2007 2:13:12 PM
On the whole I've enjoyed "God is Not Great." It's not up to the standard of Hitchins' articles; instead it meanders, is sloppy in places, one-thought-leads-to-another instead of organized writing; his knowledge of religious texts is shallow. Yet there are fine insights in it; in terms of getting one's money's worth, I came close to breaking even. Of course Hitchins is competing with Dawkins, whose book on God is better researched and tighter. I definitely do not agree with Patrick's criticism (above) that Hitchins is tone deaf when it comes to spirituality. Hitchins' main point (and Dawkins' too) is that we should all be tone-deaf about spirituality. What, pray, is spirituality? Where does it come from? What's the evidence for its existence? What's its password? Cell-phone number? How's your ghost doing these days? Grumbling as usual, about its ambiguous location between existence and non-existence?
Posted by: Anthony D'Amato | May 19, 2007 12:19:47 AM
Dan,
Thanks for somewhat correcting the mistake Hitchens made here (and keep on making everywhere else unfortunately), about the ongoing war in Sri Lanka. Saying Buddhist are responsible for War in Sri Lanka is nothing deferent than someone saying American Christians are responsible for Islamic terrorism.
Hitchens have to stop making supporting comments for a banned terrorist group, which happened to invent the suicide explosive belt and so many other terrorist tactics now used to Islamic terrorist. (If he do not have any involvement with them)
Posted by: SAM | Dec 20, 2007 4:30:45 PM



