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Sunday, February 05, 2006

Kids in bars

In today's New York Times, Nicholas Kulish complains (light-heartedly) about kids in bars (and about smoking bans): 

Call me a hard-liner or a party pooper, but I say 21 means 21. No more babies in bars.

Obviously, today's working parents are eager to spend a little quality time with their youngsters, and we're used to seeing small fry everywhere from fancy restaurants to art gallery openings. I've adjusted to the idea that many otherwise reasonable people believe there's no point in paying for a baby sitter on movie night when their toddler can entertain himself by kicking the back of my chair.

But bars? A group of 19-year-olds would be stopped at the door, but no one has the guts to card the really little ones. I blame the law of unintended consequences — in this case, the no-smoking movement. Sure, cigarettes are a public health problem. But the smoky bar filled with unhealthy grown-ups at least felt like a bar. Now, the local gin joints look more like jungle gyms.

It was the bartenders' exposure to secondhand smoke that inspired the tobacco ban. Now their lungs are presumably healthier. But they are saddled with a raft of tiny patrons who never buy drinks. They bring their own bottles. And they never tip.

Now, I couldn't agree more that too many parents fail to exercise good judgment when it comes to bringing kids to restaurants, movie houses, etc.  That said, I'm for -- within reason -- kids in bars.  (I'm not talking about dance clubs and Hooters, obviously).  It seems to me that, all things considered, it would be better -- for many reasons -- for the places where we eat, drink, socialize, and watch football to be less age-segregated than they are now.  This place, in downtown South Bend (where my kids can play board games and listen to live music while I drink Guinness), is an example of what I have in mind.

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I'm not so sure that Hooters is an inappropriate place for children. It sounds like you've never actually been to one. According to the Hooters website, 10% of their customers bring children and they even offer a children's menu. Hooters is a restaurant, not a bar. I don't think bringing children is necessarily inappropriate.

Posted by: FXKLM | Feb 5, 2006 11:32:38 PM

I was raised in a neighborhood bar,(45yrs ago) i remember learning to play shuffleboard with retired gentlemen. It was smokey and the only place around with air conditioning in the summer. It wasn't a problem for anyone that i remember. So if kids bother you i'm sure you can find a bar without them somewhere.

Posted by: steven ball | Feb 6, 2006 12:38:21 PM

There's a local bar here in DC -- the Wonderland -- that actually has a family-friendly happy hour every Wednesday during which parents can bring their kids and get to know other parents in the area. I think it's a pretty cool idea.

Posted by: jw | Feb 6, 2006 2:56:13 PM

Loved this article, I agree 100% with everything. I have become so anti-kid lately b/c it seems that everywhere I go there is someone exercising bad parenting. I try not to blame it on the kid, b/c afterall, they are just doing what they do best, but the parents, come on, show a little mercy.

Posted by: Anne | Feb 6, 2006 4:35:25 PM

I stumbled across your blog while I was doing some online research. You seem to make a good argument, but I question how many bars live up to the description you've provided. I think children are not allowed in bars so that they not be exposed to the excessive drinking and other vices that often are a part of that scene.

Posted by: panasianbiz | Jun 30, 2006 5:59:54 PM

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